[sf-lug] Ubuntu vs. Mandriva

Paul Ward dssstrkl at gmail.com
Sat Apr 26 20:08:45 PDT 2008

I'm not all that concerned with the ease of use issue, since I'm  
planning to build a headless server to act as a mailserver, firewall,  
NAS and maybe a MythTV backend. I'll use the macs to ssh into it, so  
I'm not really thinking about the desktop manager (I like KDE, but  
might give gnome a try), and it would probably be fun to set up vnc  
and do a full remote desktop. I'm aware that any distro can do what I  
want, I guess I just wanted to know if there were any real differences  
between a current champ and an old friend.

Paul Ward
Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 26, 2008, at 7:42 PM, "Ernest De Leon" <edeleonjr at gmail.com>  

> If ease of use and the 'it just works' (often attributed to Mac OS)  
> philosophy appeals to you, I would recommend Ubuntu.  I have not use  
> Mandriva proper...I tried out Mandrake a long time ago and didn't  
> like it much, but Linux in general was not so refined (at the  
> desktop level.)  Needless to say Linux has come a long way since  
> then, particularly for desktop use, and I think most desktop leaning  
> distributions like Ubuntu, Suse, Fedora, etc, are all pretty even in  
> functionality and polish.  I prefer Ubuntu, but I will also say that  
> Fedora and Suse are excellent distros.  I was rather impressed with  
> PCBSD as a matter of fact (I saw it in action at LUGRADIO2008) and I  
> even downloaded it and have been playing with it intermittently.   
> OpenSolaris still has a way to go, but it seemed to work fine on a  
> desktop PC I was tinkering with at work.  The other reason I love  
> Ubuntu so much is because of the large effort they have taken  
> towards education (like Edubuntu.)  Education (and I mean true  
> education not the business it has morphed into today) is the most  
> important thing in the world to me, and I believe it will ultimately  
> result in the righting of so much that is wrong in the world today.   
> Any company that takes such an active role in educating children (or  
> anyone for that matter) and does it in a way that promotes freedom  
> in every form is at the top of my list.
> E
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 3:39 PM, Paul Ward <dssstrkl at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've used one flavor of Linux or another since 1998, when I got
> introduced to Mandrake 2 or 3. Since it was light years better than my
> mac, I ditched it for a Linux box that later dual-booted win2k. I used
> that combo until 2002 when I got a PowerBook and have been using Macs
> full time since then. The old Linux box ran ubuntu until it died a
> couple of years ago. Since then, I've played with various distros in
> VMs, but I want to build a new machine, to use as a file/media server.
> I'm familiar with Unix CLI stuff, rolled my own Apache server, but
> have been out of the Linux game for a while.
> Paul Ward
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 26, 2008, at 1:40 PM, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
> > Quoting Paul Ward (dssstrkl at gmail.com):
> >
> >> I'm sure this comes up every once in a while, and I'm definately  
> not
> >> trying to start a distro war, but are there any significant
> >> differences between the current (k)ubuntu and Mandriva releases?
> >
> > Yes.  There are some quite significant underlying differences.
> >
> > If you don't mind the question, how much background do you already
> > have
> > on that subject, and on Linux generally?
> >
> >
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> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - A common 18th Century  
> sentiment voiced by Benjamin Franklin
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