[sf-lug] about /usr/local and package management

[jim stockford]

uh oh. I count 10 cents so far. What's happened to the mail?

    OTOH, I like your <howevermany> cents, though. I've learned
to walk this way--I'm ready to bet that most others have, too.


On Oct 18, 2006, at 9:18 AM, Andy Grimm wrote:

> Hi, I'm new to the list, but thought this would be an interesting
> place to weigh in.  In my sys admin experience, putting software in
> the proper package format is always the best thing, but when that's
> not achievable, there are only two potential places to install things
> in the standard hierarchy: /opt and /usr/local.  Typically, /opt is
> for vendor software (from HP, EMC, etc.), and many vendors are using
> RPM packaging now, so on a Red Hat or SuSE server, the only place
> completely free of packaged software is /usr/local.  Therefore, it's
> the most appropriate place to install non-packaged software.
>
> Just my two cents.
>
> --Andy
>
> On 10/18/06, jim stockford <jim at well.com> wrote:
>>
>>     my take on a package-managed OS (Red Hat's RPM
>> or Debian's APT) is that as much as possible the SA for
>> the box should use the package manager exclusively.
>>     yes?
>>
>>     Ideally this would obviate the good old tar management
>> wrt system and box-wide software
>> ...(to use tar to install software is to sidestep the benefits
>> ...of package management--the package management
>> ...database is not updated, and there's the fat-finger-effect
>> ...of tar-ing in something that is managed, breaking the
>> ...package management for that software).
>>
>>     But there may be a legitimate need for tar-ing something
>> in, for example chkrootkit.
>>
>>     THE QUESTION: is the /usr/local/ space _properly_ a no
>> man's land for tar-ing and other means of adding non-
>> package-managed software (e.g. writing and compiling,
>> copying...)?
>>     Seems like to me, but what's your experience (with
>> production boxes per SF-LUG colo-ing a box in a
>> production environment)?
>>
>>
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