[sf-lug] sf-lug Digest, Vol 11, Issue 15
Alden Meneses
aldenm at gmail.com
Tue Oct 17 09:30:41 PDT 2006
Jim,
I would like to volunteer and help with the configuration and maintenance of
the server at the co-lo.
It was nice meeting Nathan, JT, Mach at yesterday's meeting.
Thanks,
Alden
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> 1. tonight's meeting -- coloing (jim stockford)
> 2. Fwd: two projects (jim stockford)
> 3. Fwd: tonight's meeting -- coloing (jim stockford)
> 4. Re: Fwd: tonight's meeting -- coloing (Rick Moen)
> 5. Re: Fwd: two projects (Marc Juul)
> 6. Re: tonight's meeting -- coloing (Thomas DiZoglio)
> 7. Re: All about co-location (jim stockford)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 15:52:06 -0700
> From: jim stockford <jim at well.com>
> Subject: [sf-lug] tonight's meeting -- coloing
> To: SFLUG Mailing List <sf-lug at linuxmafia.com>
> Message-ID: <7bd646894f49b143a7f8074df7d30f6d at well.com>
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> sf-lug has an opportunity to colo with servepath in
> their full-blown colo facility. I hope we can discuss
> this tonight and via email in the next weeks.
> * Paul Lancaster of servepath is willing to come to
> one of our meetings (e.g. this coming Sunday11/5
> at 11 AM) to tell us about colo-ing in general and
> servepath in particular.
> * Paul suggests those of us who are interested can
> come to the servepath facility and ask questions
> of the staff--we should set a specific date/time.
> * i can take one of my tower machines down there
> after i config it properly as a stand-alone web server.
> * if any of you are interested in learning about a
> colo facility, come down with me for the install.
> * at some point i think it would be good to get a
> 2U box and trick it out for the sf-lug web site--my
> idea is multiple hosts inside the single box: any
> one know of a >1GHz linux-capable SBC that
> runs on 12VDC and sucks minimal power?
>
> I'm hoping one or more of you will help me
> * configure the box for the coloing
> * move the box to the colo site
> * maybe help me with the web site itself--i'm the
> only one managing it, and if i get hit by a beer truck
> the site could be neglected.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:15:34 -0700
> From: jim stockford <jim at well.com>
> Subject: [sf-lug] Fwd: two projects
> To: SFLUG Mailing List <sf-lug at linuxmafia.com>
> Message-ID: <f253d136b88d05581a068c0532bea450 at well.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>
> Here are suggestions from Mike Weber at SpiderTools.com
> (CyberMontana, Inc., provides lots of training online, via CD
> and DVD, and hardcopy--this is where I buy most of my
> distros).
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: mike <mogyweb at blackfoot.net>
> > Date: October 16, 2006 4:33:31 PM PDT
> > To: jim stockford <jim at well.com>
> > Subject: Re: two projects
> > Reply-To: mogyweb at blackfoot.net
> >
> > Jim;
> >
> > Here are a few options that work well:
> > http://damnsmalllinux.org/store/motherboards/EPIA_M10000
> >
> > http://damnsmalllinux.org/store/motherboards/EPIA_5000
> >
> > This case is not as good looking as some but I have found it works
> > well.
> > http://damnsmalllinux.org/store/itx_cases/MOREX_3677
> >
> > I used Centos or DSL on these boards.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > On Thu, 2006-10-12 at 11:22 -0700, jim stockford wrote:
> >> 1: multiple units in a single two-unit rackable case (enclosure)
> >> the idea is to have a mini network in a 2U case, all linux nodes.
> >> one node would be the gateway with just about nothing on it
> >> except sshd and squid (httpd proxy), two NICs, one for external,
> >> the other for the internal LAN.
> >> second node would have almost nothing on it except sshd and
> >> httpd and maybe a rdbms with some scripts (I'm learning python,
> >> so that's the top candidate).
> >> third node would have a fairly full-featured bunch of stuff,
> >> including RPMs and two RAID 1 drives.
> >> For all units, 1GHz is sufficient; i love RAM, so 1GB RAM always
> >> seems good, except in the case of 2GB; one or two hard drives;
> >> maybe one or two CD or DVD units in the box.
> >> Seems the internal LAN should include an internal switch that
> >> presents an external jack for someone bringing a laptop for on-site
> >> ssh access.
> >> I suppose there might be an easy way for each internal unit
> >> to present console connections via cable to bulkhead connex. I
> >> also suppose that's not useful--better to bring the laptop and
> >> have X on the laptop render the GUI stuff on the internal nodes.
> >>
> >> 2: very low power linux boxes on a boat. The idea is to have a
> >> small, very low power network on the boat, hopefully directly
> >> powered by 12VDC.
> >> I cannot find a source for internet access from a boat that's
> >> out on the ocean. Gotta be satellite connex, I think, unless
> >> possible to tap a passing submarine.
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:19:22 -0700
> From: jim stockford <jim at well.com>
> Subject: [sf-lug] Fwd: tonight's meeting -- coloing
> To: SFLUG Mailing List <sf-lug at linuxmafia.com>
> Message-ID: <4dea9eb76843a3a80e8b77dbd158756c at well.com>
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>
> (looks like we'll have to fix up tom's account--triggers
> notice to lx and me re mailman)
> Here's suggestions from tom:
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> > From: "Thomas DiZoglio" <Thomas.DiZoglio at riverbed.com>
> > Date: October 16, 2006 5:01:51 PM PDT
> > To: "jim stockford" <jim at well.com>, "SFLUG Mailing List"
> > <sf-lug at linuxmafia.com>
> > Subject: RE: [sf-lug] tonight's meeting -- coloing
> >
> > Hey,
> >
> > Here is a product.
> >
> > This company has some SBC's and they sell enclosures for there boxes.
> > Not sure linux distro runs:
> >
> > http://www.ampro.com/index_interactive_GIF.asp
> >
> > This runs red hat, 2 ether ports,.... Might be more than u looking for:
> >
> > http://www.versalogic.com/Products/DS.asp?ProductID=164
> >
> >
> > Also, this link is a SBC - Linux Quick reference guide:
> >
> > http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT2614444132.html
> >
> > It is a great site for finding what you are looking for.
> > --------------------
> > t0md
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sf-lug-bounces at linuxmafia.com
> > [mailto:sf-lug-bounces at linuxmafia.com] On Behalf Of jim stockford
> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:52 PM
> > To: SFLUG Mailing List
> > Subject: [sf-lug] tonight's meeting -- coloing
> >
> >
> > sf-lug has an opportunity to colo with servepath in
> > their full-blown colo facility. I hope we can discuss
> > this tonight and via email in the next weeks.
> > * Paul Lancaster of servepath is willing to come to
> > one of our meetings (e.g. this coming Sunday11/5
> > at 11 AM) to tell us about colo-ing in general and
> > servepath in particular.
> > * Paul suggests those of us who are interested can
> > come to the servepath facility and ask questions
> > of the staff--we should set a specific date/time.
> > * i can take one of my tower machines down there
> > after i config it properly as a stand-alone web server.
> > * if any of you are interested in learning about a
> > colo facility, come down with me for the install.
> > * at some point i think it would be good to get a
> > 2U box and trick it out for the sf-lug web site--my
> > idea is multiple hosts inside the single box: any
> > one know of a >1GHz linux-capable SBC that
> > runs on 12VDC and sucks minimal power?
> >
> > I'm hoping one or more of you will help me
> > * configure the box for the coloing
> > * move the box to the colo site
> > * maybe help me with the web site itself--i'm the
> > only one managing it, and if i get hit by a beer truck
> > the site could be neglected.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > sf-lug mailing list
> > sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
> > http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/sf-lug
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:27:34 -0700
> From: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Fwd: tonight's meeting -- coloing
> To: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
> Message-ID: <20061017002734.GJ26620 at linuxmafia.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Quoting jim stockford (jim at well.com):
>
> >
> > (looks like we'll have to fix up tom's account--triggers
> > notice to lx and me re mailman)
> > Here's suggestions from tom:
>
> FYI, all you do is go to the admin screen as the notice tells you to do
> (http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/admindb/sf-lug). You'll notice that
> there's a held message from thomas.dizoglio at riverbed.com . Pick the
> radio button "Accept". Below that, check the checkbox for "Add
> thomas.dizoglio at riverbed.com to one of these sender filters:" and select
> _its_ radio buttion of "Accepts". Last, select button "Submit All Data"
> at the bottom (or top) of the page.
>
> If you do that, it will not be necessary to manually forward the
> message, as you did -- and the new sending address will get added to the
> "OK to send from this address even though it's not subscribed" roster
> (paraphrased).
>
> Thomas keeps encountering this problem because he occasionally starts
> posting from yet another non-subscribed address. But you can pretty
> easily fix the problem as it comes up, for each new posting address
> someone uses.
>
> Anyhow, you should still do the above; the post is still being held for
> your review.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 21:22:49 -0700
> From: "Marc Juul" <marcjc at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] Fwd: two projects
> To: sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
> Message-ID:
> <65e44f2f0610162122l3a83f14eu982aac2675c380cb at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I would be very interested in anything you find on the subject of
> marine Internet.
> I've only sailed around Scandinavia / Germany / Latvia and generally
> trips < 1 week, and mostly pretty close to land, so my experiences
> might be of little use, but nevertheless:
>
> I was surprised at how far out gprs is sometimes possible, though the
> speed is very sucky. A lot of harbours have wifi now, even if it's not
> announced. Usually they're just completely default-setting open APs.
>
> Of the satellite type connections I've only used Iridium. Very slow,
> only really good for email or browsing with a textbased browser, but
> it is surprisingly stable and one of the nice things is that you don't
> have to fiddle with pointing an antenna at some specific place in the
> sky, just a general 'up' kind of direction works, even when moving the
> antenna around while connected (good when the waves get big). Another
> plus is that Iridium works anywhere in the world and also gives you
> voice. The speed is amazingly snail-like though, comparable to using
> your cell phone as a modem in non-gprs mode.
>
> > 2: very low power linux boxes on a boat. The idea is to have a
> > small, very low power network on the boat, hopefully directly
> > powered by 12VDC.
> > I cannot find a source for internet access from a boat that's
> > out on the ocean. Gotta be satellite connex, I think, unless
> > possible to tap a passing submarine.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 17:01:51 -0700
> From: "Thomas DiZoglio" <Thomas.DiZoglio at riverbed.com>
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] tonight's meeting -- coloing
> To: "jim stockford" <jim at well.com>, "SFLUG Mailing List"
> <sf-lug at linuxmafia.com>
> Message-ID:
> <91047DAAD8D9124BA4A6D5B9B04DEF7F021F45DA at TYPHOON.nbttech.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hey,
>
> Here is a product.
>
> This company has some SBC's and they sell enclosures for there boxes.
> Not sure linux distro runs:
>
> http://www.ampro.com/index_interactive_GIF.asp
>
> This runs red hat, 2 ether ports,.... Might be more than u looking for:
>
> http://www.versalogic.com/Products/DS.asp?ProductID=164
>
>
> Also, this link is a SBC - Linux Quick reference guide:
>
> http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT2614444132.html
>
> It is a great site for finding what you are looking for.
> --------------------
> t0md
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sf-lug-bounces at linuxmafia.com
> [mailto:sf-lug-bounces at linuxmafia.com] On Behalf Of jim stockford
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 3:52 PM
> To: SFLUG Mailing List
> Subject: [sf-lug] tonight's meeting -- coloing
>
>
> sf-lug has an opportunity to colo with servepath in
> their full-blown colo facility. I hope we can discuss
> this tonight and via email in the next weeks.
> * Paul Lancaster of servepath is willing to come to
> one of our meetings (e.g. this coming Sunday11/5
> at 11 AM) to tell us about colo-ing in general and
> servepath in particular.
> * Paul suggests those of us who are interested can
> come to the servepath facility and ask questions
> of the staff--we should set a specific date/time.
> * i can take one of my tower machines down there
> after i config it properly as a stand-alone web server.
> * if any of you are interested in learning about a
> colo facility, come down with me for the install.
> * at some point i think it would be good to get a
> 2U box and trick it out for the sf-lug web site--my
> idea is multiple hosts inside the single box: any
> one know of a >1GHz linux-capable SBC that
> runs on 12VDC and sucks minimal power?
>
> I'm hoping one or more of you will help me
> * configure the box for the coloing
> * move the box to the colo site
> * maybe help me with the web site itself--i'm the
> only one managing it, and if i get hit by a beer truck
> the site could be neglected.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> sf-lug mailing list
> sf-lug at linuxmafia.com
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 08:28:17 -0700
> From: jim stockford <jim at well.com>
> Subject: Re: [sf-lug] All about co-location
> To: John Strazzarino <jstrazza at yahoo.com>
> Cc: SFLUG Mailing List <sf-lug at linuxmafia.com>
> Message-ID: <e9d27526f8ef49f0e52eb2bb7a499986 at well.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
>
> thanks for the note, john.
> 1) servepath is donating space to sf-lug!
> 2) my (possibly adled) idea for SBCs is to get
> some small ones and fit a couple or three in a
> 2U box so's to have a little LAN at work at the
> colo site, all inside a single 2U box--low
> bandwidth, low power consumption, good
> neighbor....
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 16, 2006, at 6:54 PM, John Strazzarino wrote:
>
> > I am only slightly familiar with co-location, so excuse my questions.?
> > I visited a place in South S.F. called RACE Technologies andin their
> > machine room I saw about 15 rows of rack mounted computers and a
> > number of rows of 'desktop' computers that you would find at home. It
> > is my understanding that:
> > ?
> > 1) you could 'purchase' space on one of the comptuers and the colo
> > facility would provide an IP address to you.? You then registed the IP
> > address with a domain and they you use FTP/SSH/Whatever to load your
> > software and off you go.? The colo facility would provide as high
> > speed connection/electrical power/air conditioning/fire protection and
> > you could optionally purchase backup/web site development/etc.
> > ?
> > OR
> > ?
> > You could provide your own computer and do the same.?
> > ?
> > 2) I am uncertain why?you need a SBC (single board computer) for this
> > co-lo task.? Wouldn't any old?1 GHZ?or better computer accomplish this
> > need?? And I don't believe it has to be a rack mount computer
> > (although they might not all any other type in their racks for space
> > needs).? Are we trying to put 2 computers in one box?? Am I missing
> > something large?
> > ?
> > Thanks,? John ?
> > ?
> > Post as is or edit this message to meet your needs.
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Get your email and more, right on the new Yahoo.com
>
>
>
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