[sf-lug] Rick's explanation of his internet setup.

jim stockford jim at well.com
Sun Jan 1 20:53:11 PST 2006

Rick and Adrien: what an interesting ping-pong!
* The laptop idea (get a cheap laptop for your
server if you want quietly to save electri$ity)
is useful.
* (i had no idea CPUs and motherboards had
such nicknames.) I'd like to know what are the
best choices for CPUs, motherboards, and
such in the first half of 2006. SATA is the way
to go? How about all-RAM systems?
* What are the tradeoffs of do-it-at-your-house
vs colo (your box lives there) vs web hosting
(not your box)? The colo and web hosters
have T-1 with UPS and wet ware switch

    The downside of the Uncle Enzo solution
(and the cheap laptop solution) is that the
older he gets, the more likely is hardware
failure. Once something goes (the drives,
controller, motherboard...), he's probably
permanently gone, as the money to
repair/replace is a bad spend, yes?
    Long as you've got him, love him, but be
ready for son of Enzo, what say?

On Jan 1, 2006, at 6:51 PM, Rick Moen wrote:

> Quoting Adrien Lamothe (alamozzz at yahoo.com):
>> Well, cleaning out dust is always a good thing to do.
> True.  I do my best to stop it at the front panel, which has wire 
> grills
> over three incredibly noisy 2" high-speed fans.  The whine is loud and
> annoying enough that I long ago stopped using my desk, which is right
> next to it in the living room.
> Anyhow, the few times I've cracked the case, it's seemed to me that
> there was very little dust actually _in_ the cavity, because I pretty
> frequently remove it from the front-panel grills.
>> I think it is an excellent piece of hardware.  The 400BX chipset is
>> very stable, a great choice for a server.  The Pentium III Coppermine
>> is a very capable processor.
> For its day:  very true.  If only the damned thing were quieter and 
> more
> power-thrifty.
> Before Reg Charney moved out of the Bay Area, he gave me a VA Linux
> Systems 2230 2U system, which is based on the slightly newer and fairly
> respectable Intel L440GX "Lancewood" motherboard, and has a single
> PIII/833 (can support dual).  Reg had disconnected the leads to one of
> _that_ box's fans (and tested to make sure it didn't overheat), and
> indeed it's way, way quieter than the current model 500 box.
> Anyhow, I have in mind to migrate uncle-enzo over to the model 2230
> Lancewood system -- either that, or something really quiet, modern, and
> small.  Like, imagine:  I go down to Action Computer and buy a nice 
> 2yr.
> old laptop with a broken LCD screen for $50.
> That would be, what?  Some P4/1500 or such with a gig of memory, a 40 
> GB
> IDE hard drive.  Built-in UPS (the battery).  Quiet as a dormouse.  
> Sips
> only tiny amounts of power.
> And, you know?  There would be no performance difference, because of 
> the
> aDSL bottleneck.
>> Don't let uncle-enzo die!
> I might have him bronzed.  ;->
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