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                        On Tuesday, March 26, 2024 at 03:08:24 PM PDT, Les Faby <lfaby2018@gmail.com> wrote:
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                <div><div id="ydp6c94e5f1yiv0808443348"><div><div>I get a lot out of the discussion of smartphone apps as interfaces. In related news, my DVD player includes a YouTube app. It worked until last week when they automatically downloaded a new version that does not even load successfully ("insufficient memory").</div><br clear="none"><div class="ydp6c94e5f1yiv0808443348gmail_quote"><div id="ydp6c94e5f1yiv0808443348yqt66803" class="ydp6c94e5f1yiv0808443348yqt2271107143"><div dir="ltr" class="ydp6c94e5f1yiv0808443348gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 26, 2024, 2:53 PM <a shape="rect" href="mailto:paulz@ieee.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">paulz@ieee.org</a> <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:paulz@ieee.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">paulz@ieee.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;" class="ydp6c94e5f1yiv0808443348gmail_quote"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
        <div dir="ltr">There is an IoT conference in Santa Clara in June.   Possible opportunity to learn what the industry people are thinking.  </div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Here is a link.  You can get a free pass to the Expo and online content, but you must register this week.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><a shape="rect" href="https://www.iottechexpo.com/northamerica/ticket-types-and-prices/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.iottechexpo.com/northamerica/ticket-types-and-prices/</a><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Sometimes is useful to go to local conferences just to find out stuff you didn't know that you didn't know.  And that is all I know about this event.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div>
        
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                        On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 02:28:13 PM PDT, Ivan Sergio Borgonovo <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:mail@webthatworks.it" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">mail@webthatworks.it</a>> wrote:
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                <div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">On 3/20/24 5:46 PM, Rick Moen wrote:<br clear="none">> Quoting Ivan Sergio Borgonovo (<a shape="rect" href="mailto:ivan@webthatworks.it" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">ivan@webthatworks.it</a>):<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">>> Problem is... it is way easier to build up something based on<br clear="none">>> whatever tcp/ip rather than nfc/bluetooth.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Huh, thank you:  I've just learned that there's no standard<br clear="none">> implementation of TCP/IP over Bluetooth.<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> I'd made a lazy assumption to the contrary; thus the wack-ass<br clear="none">> irrelevancy of my OpenSprinkler-analogy idea.  Sorry if I seemed<br clear="none">> clueless.  I actually was, here.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I'm somehow clueless as well... because I never had to learn it.<br clear="none">And I pay my bills programming MCU. But that should be a clue about how <br clear="none">much these solutions are requested and popular.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Probably there is some way to "transparently" use Bluetooth for tcp/ip <br clear="none">transfer over android... but and this is my guess, then you won't be <br clear="none">able to entrust the development of the web app to a "web agency".<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Most embedded MCU manufacturers will give you some libraries to use <br clear="none">Bluetooth tethering.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Somehow this second part may be the cheapest in terms of programming and <br clear="none">logistics. After all your C/C++ programmer know the hardware, the <br clear="none">platform, know how to code in C/C++, know the library ecosystem even it <br clear="none">may or may not know the specific library, hə is autonomous, his work is <br clear="none">self contained...<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">-- <br clear="none">Ivan Sergio Borgonovo<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://www.webthatworks.it" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.webthatworks.it</a> <a shape="rect" href="https://www.borgonovo.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.borgonovo.net</a><div id="ydp6c94e5f1yiv0808443348m_-3783743201391919163ydpc9b3bd6ayqtfd58181"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">conspire mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">conspire@linuxmafia.com</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire</a><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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