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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">Elise, What is it that you want to do with your computer?   Never mind what anyone else says, in the end it is your computer to do stuff that is important to you</span></span><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Some distro's allow one to make an executable on a thumb drive.  It won't be especially fast, but it allows one to "test drive" the features before doing the install.   </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Another comment on the desktop environment.  Over the years, they have tended to become heavy with fancy features to with GUI's to play music or movies.   I used LXDE for some time on a computer that had plenty of resources.  </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">.</div><div><br></div>
        
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                    On Thursday, July 6, 2023 at 08:32:22 PM PDT, Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com> wrote:
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                <div>I wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> Predictably, it's the 4GB RAM that's going to be the real limiting<br clear="none">> factor for desktop Linux.  Also, the Celeron N3060, a low-end dual-core<br clear="none">> SoC for notebooks, clocked at 1.6 to 2.48 GHz and part of the Intel<br clear="none">> Braswell platform, would be pretty iff-y for modern GNOME or KDE.  <br clear="none"><br clear="none">I'm a little behind the times on mass-market Desktop Environments for<br clear="none">desktop Linux, but, last I heard, popular non-KDE, non-GNOME choices<br clear="none">(with lower hardware resource requirements) included<br clear="none"><br clear="none">LXQt<br clear="none">XFCE4 (aka Xfce)<br clear="none">Cutefish<br clear="none">Moksha Desktop<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Yes, yes, yes, there are also others.  And before anyone mentions that<br clear="none">LXDE is still alive:  I would disrecommend picking it in 2023, because the <br clear="none">underlying graphics toolkits (gtk2 and gtk3) have been EOLed for quite a<br clear="none">few years, and also were from GNOME developers who have proven to be <br clear="none">hostile to anything non-GNOME -- which is why LXDE was orphaned and LXQt<br clear="none">created to replace it.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">And yes, DEs are not necessary, either, and it's perfectly functional to <br clear="none">just have a window manager and no DE.  But I'll assume for discussion's <br clear="none">sake that Elise is a DE-leaning user.<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">I note that Linux Mint still ships an Xfce flavour.<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=304" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=304</a><br clear="none">One could do worse.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">LXQt desktop distros for x86_64:<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://distrowatch.com/search.php?ostype=Linux&category=Desktop&origin=All&basedon=All&notbasedon=None&desktop=LXQt&architecture=x86_64&package=All&rolling=All&isosize=All&netinstall=All&language=All&defaultinit=All&status=Active#simple" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://distrowatch.com/search.php?ostype=Linux&category=Desktop&origin=All&basedon=All&notbasedon=None&desktop=LXQt&architecture=x86_64&package=All&rolling=All&isosize=All&netinstall=All&language=All&defaultinit=All&status=Active#simple</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Xfce, ditto:<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://distrowatch.com/search.php?ostype=Linux&category=Desktop&origin=All&basedon=All&notbasedon=None&desktop=Xfce&architecture=x86_64&package=All&rolling=All&isosize=All&netinstall=All&language=All&defaultinit=All&status=Active#simple" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://distrowatch.com/search.php?ostype=Linux&category=Desktop&origin=All&basedon=All&notbasedon=None&desktop=Xfce&architecture=x86_64&package=All&rolling=All&isosize=All&netinstall=All&language=All&defaultinit=All&status=Active#simple</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Distrowatch doesn't know about Cutefish or Moksha Desktop.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Cutefish is provided by CutefishOS, an Ubuntu variant.<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://cutefish-ubuntu.github.io" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://cutefish-ubuntu.github.io</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Moksha Desktop is provided by Bodhi Linux, also an Ubuntu variant.<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://www.bodhilinux.com/moksha-desktop/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.bodhilinux.com/moksha-desktop/</a><div class="ydp53b30feayqt0183085606" id="ydp53b30feayqtfd45820"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">conspire mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">conspire@linuxmafia.com</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire</a><br clear="none"></div></div>
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