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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">To clarify. If I am an "expert" in something is the ability to go along thinking something should be easy and stumbling upon some wierd problem. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">My original post may also have been misleading because I tried to include a fair amount of detail so someone else could possibly reproduce it . See: <a href="http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Essays/smart-questions.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Essays/smart-questions.html</a> </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Friday, July 7, 2023 at 12:46:29 PM PDT, Steve Litt <slitt@troubleshooters.com> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr">Rick Moen said on Fri, 7 Jul 2023 01:10:07 -0700<br clear="none"><br clear="none">>Quoting Steve Litt (slitt@troubleshooters.com):<br clear="none">><br clear="none">>> I call Pulseaudio the land of a thousand mutes.<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> I haven't used Ubuntu for a decade, but on most distros you can get<br clear="none">>> rid of Pulseaudio, install ALSA, and use alsamixer to control device<br clear="none">>> volumes.<br clear="none">>> <br clear="none">>> I think you can install apulse without installing Pulseaudio. apulse<br clear="none">>> gives Pulseaudio compatibility to many, but not all programs, just by<br clear="none">>> preceding the command with "apulse ". <br clear="none">><br clear="none">>I'm no fan of Pulse Audio (or the various other Poetteringware pieces),<br clear="none">>but want to caution Paul Zander that trying to rip out or set aside<br clear="none">>Pulse Audio on the Pulse Audio-oriented Kubuntu distribution, and shim<br clear="none">>in ALSA (with or without apulse) to take its (Pulse Audio's) place<br clear="none">>would be radical system-architecture surgery, and IMO should not be<br clear="none">>attempted lightly.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Sorry. I thought Paul Zander is an expert because he's on this list.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">You bring up an excellent point. What I suggested is fighting your<br clear="none">distro, and why do that? Concidentally, I just updated a<br clear="none">Troubleshooters.Com article on this very subject:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://troubleshooters.com/linux/avoid_complexity.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://troubleshooters.com/linux/avoid_complexity.htm</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">><br clear="none">>Please be careful to caution people, especially those who are not<br clear="none">>expert user, if giving them radical-changes advice.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Yes.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">SteveT<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Steve Litt <br clear="none">Autumn 2022 featured book: Thriving in Tough Times<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/thrive.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.troubleshooters.com/bookstore/thrive.htm</a><div class="ydp75363a74yqt1037497970" id="ydp75363a74yqtfd10730"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">conspire mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">conspire@linuxmafia.com</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire</a><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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