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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Maybe part of the problem is that you tend to be verbose, with detailed explanations. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">ND seems to want short comments so people can just nod and go onto the adverts.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Or you are sometimes controversial. Actually that is one reason I like CABAL, there have</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">been long debates in person or on line, but everyone manages to strongly disagree without </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">being disagreeable. </div><div><br></div>
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On Tuesday, November 9, 2021, 09:24:10 PM PST, Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com> wrote:
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<div>Quoting Paul Zander (<a shape="rect" href="mailto:paulz@ieee.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">paulz@ieee.org</a>):<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> Add to the list of misappropriated symbols: <br clear="none">> 88 is an century old Morse code abbreviation for "hugs and<br clear="none">> kisses". Now the same people that claim Tyr also have a different<br clear="none">> meaning for 88.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Ugh, yes. The list appears to be long.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">o The Viking Odal rune, legitimately signifying heritage; inheritance,<br clear="none"> inherited estate, Was in the Elder Futhark runic alphabet. Asshat<br clear="none"> use this to refer to their sad little ideology.<br clear="none">o Nested parentheses around a name. (Asshat is signaling that the<br clear="none"> named person is asserted to be Jewish.)<br clear="none">o Various combinations of 14 and 88. More sad little ideology related<br clear="none"> to their dead dictator and such.<br clear="none">o The 'OK' hand signal. Don't know why, don't really want to.<br clear="none">o Emojis for frogs (because Pepe) and milk (because white, I guess?)<br clear="none">o Thor's hammer, Myolnir. (Asshats don't want us Nordics to have good things.)<br clear="none">o The Norse 'life rune'. From the Younger Futhark. More sad little <br clear="none"> ideology and budget mysticism.<br clear="none">o The Norse 'valknot' (knot of the slain) symbol that properly <br clear="none"> refers to the afterlife. Asshats say willing to give my life, blah<br clear="none"> blah.<br clear="none">o Celtic cross. Apparently useful to asshats as invoking Chrisianity<br clear="none"> without requiring it.<br clear="none">o Sonnenrad (black sun, sun wheel). Himmler artwork.<br clear="none">o Germnic 'wolfsangel' rune, from heraldry. (Looks like a wolftrap.)<br clear="none"> In ancient times, was a symbol of liberty and independence.<br clear="none"> Asshats use in a predictable way as a semi-deniable symbol for<br clear="none"> National Socialism.<br clear="none">o The triskele (which will annoy the Coriscans, Sicilians, and Manx a <br clear="none"> lot, among others). Asshats reportedly started using this after some<br clear="none"> Afrikaner nationalists did.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">There's a lot more, and ADL keeps track of this sludge so we don't have<br clear="none">to. These guys can't be bothered to create their own symbols; that's<br clear="none">work. They'd rather steal.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I found it quite striking when I came across organised "neo-heathen"<br clear="none">religion groups -- the Ásatrú effort -- about how they make a dignified <br clear="none">and very determined point of having absolutely nothing to do with that<br clear="none">lot (which tends to try to co-opt them and all their symbols). <br clear="none"><br clear="none">FWIW, hanging out with the Ásatrú people is, to use the old saying, a<br clear="none">trip. RationalWiki has its usual slightly jaundiced view:<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Asatru " rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Asatru </a>. A footnote on that page observes:<br clear="none">"It is unclear how far modern practitioners of Asatru actually believe<br clear="none">their mythology. High priest, Hilmar Örn Hilmarsson sees the stories as<br clear="none">metaphors for human psychology and natural forces." <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Er, quite. I was flummoxed in having conversation with them, as I kept<br clear="none">wanting to blurt out "In what sense, specifically, do you assert that<br clear="none">Odin, Thor, Freyr, Loki, Ragnorak, etc., are real?" At the same time,<br clear="none">once you stop worrying whether the guy in front of you is going to carry<br clear="none">out a blood sacrifice, they really do come across as old-fashioned<br clear="none">culturally Scandinavian in their ethics and outlook. Trust me, I'd<br clear="none">know.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The name Ásatrú is a modern Icelandic coinage, meaning 'devoted to the<br clear="none">Æsir', the gods of Asgard. Not the Marvel Comics version.<div class="ydp66ea596fyqt8246095979" id="ydp66ea596fyqtfd78071"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">conspire mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">conspire@linuxmafia.com</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire</a><br clear="none"></div></div>
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