<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div style="font-family:Arial;">On Fri, Dec 11, 2020, at 2:04 PM, <a href="mailto:paulz@ieee.org">paulz@ieee.org</a> wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div class="qt-ydp64aaa2e6yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue", Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div>2) Regarding certificates of websites, my first awareness was when I was being warned that my personal info might not be secure. It was common to get this warning even from places that were not selling anything or asking for any of my info. I found it a mixture of puzzling and amusing. From an earlier item, I understand that even now that certs are not especially robust or secure and continue to cause problems for people with websites that are not an ecommerce business.<br></div></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">Because of the fragility (and number of intermediaries) in the cert chain?<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">Or…because they're not EV (extended validation) certs?<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Validation_Certificate">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Validation_Certificate</a><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">Deirdre</div></body></html>