<div dir="auto">I don't stay home all the time.<div dir="auto">I take long walks.<br><div dir="auto">I work as a cashier at my local supermarket.</div><div dir="auto">So far I haven't caught the Covid-19.</div><div dir="auto">I am hoping it is because, until last January, I substitute taught for local school districts. I worked with germy kids for years. I believe that my immune system is stronger than average for someone my age. I hope it's strong enough that I either don't catch the Coronavirus or I get only a mild case. But I am at risk. I really like to work and earn money.</div><div dir="auto">I believe that my daughter Rebecca had a mild case of the Coronavirus. She was never tested. But she was sick for about a week. I have not seen her since November. She was living in the dorms at Northeastern University in Boston. Then Northeastern closed the dorms. Now she is staying with a friend and her family near Ithica, NY. She and they are well. Rebecca just finished her spring semester. Her classes turned into oline classes. Computer science. And she was a TA for a class she took fall semester.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Elise Scher</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 10:30 PM Ruben Safir <<a href="mailto:ruben@mrbrklyn.com">ruben@mrbrklyn.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 04:02:04PM -0700, Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote:<br>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, at 10:18 AM, Ruben Safir wrote:<br>
> > Almost as if one cue, our department is in the news today<br>
> > <br>
> > <a href="https://nypost.com/2020/04/27/ive-worked-the-coronavirus-front-line-and-i-say-its-time-to-start-opening-up/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nypost.com/2020/04/27/ive-worked-the-coronavirus-front-line-and-i-say-its-time-to-start-opening-up/</a><br>
> > <br>
> > Ive worked the coronavirus front line and I say its time to start<br>
> > opening up <br>
> <br>
> With respect, just because y'all were hit hardest and one of the first doesn't mean that you were hit *last*. There are places that haven't been hit at all yet, or at least not apparently.<br>
> <br>
> Because until there are zero active global cases or a working vaccine with a real vaccination plan, it's not safe to open up. I am *truly* hopeful we'll have a proper vaccine soon. I have just seen bad science happen on this before, some of it foisted off on the third world. Unfortunately.<br>
> <br>
> On fishing, I agree with you, and one place I used to enjoy a lot was the calm spot near the covered bridge two doors down from where I lived on an unpaved road in Vermont. (Most roads in Vermont are unpaved simply and only because it's a total PITA to pave them and actually more costly and unsafe to do so than to leave them unpaved and level them well.)<br>
> <br>
> Here's a view of the area we used to take a canoe and fish:<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://www.google.com/maps/@44.956199,-72.3930312,3a,75y,223.29h,64.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9b0CjmGFy8f6RBDeHOzKng!2e0!7i13312!8i6656" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/maps/@44.956199,-72.3930312,3a,75y,223.29h,64.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9b0CjmGFy8f6RBDeHOzKng!2e0!7i13312!8i6656</a><br>
> <br>
> Place we used to live (this was not the place north of the Canadian border, which has been torn down):<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9591115,-72.389837,3a,75y,310.04h,80.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgZkSKQOCfcHzdE27EMrcRA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9591115,-72.389837,3a,75y,310.04h,80.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgZkSKQOCfcHzdE27EMrcRA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656</a><br>
> <br>
> My old wood shop:<br>
> <br>
> <a href="https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9592318,-72.389783,3a,75y,142.06h,79.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd2ByTLfBoU_l7_VA2_sc7Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9592318,-72.389783,3a,75y,142.06h,79.32t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sd2ByTLfBoU_l7_VA2_sc7Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656</a><br>
> <br>
> They seem to have removed the old corrugated steel siding, which is a shame because bats used to nest in it during the summer. I figured that out when they used to chew me out when I tried to use power tools during the day. In winter, they'd actually migrate further south, so it wasn't a problem.<br>
> <br>
> If you look at a vertical view, you'll see the land behind is dark green, aka swamp. Lots of beavers and moose (moose are swamp creatures, which I had not known). We'd get a lot of them walking through our property because the power line right-of-way went through.<br>
> <br>
> So, this virtual fishing visit hopefully helped a wee bit in this stir crazy time.<br>
> <br>
> Deirdre<br>
> <br>
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I appreciate it, but my freedom is the only thing that will help.<br>
<br>
That and clean sweep of all the polticians that caused this, Cuomo,<br>
Newsom, Schumer, Murphy, DeBalsio, Pelosi, Biden ... they are all guilty of <br>
creating uncalled for hysteria, and destroying the fabric of our <br>
civilization.<br>
<br>
And now that they have this new power, they are not going to give <br>
it up. I am looking forward to NY to actually run out of money.<br>
<br>
This is not a war. It is a disease.<br>
<br>
The questions that need to be answered are not science, they are <br>
moral. How long can people be jailed in there homes for? Why is it<br>
that this response has NEVER been attempted before EVER anywhere?<br>
<br>
<a href="https://nypost.com/2020/04/26/wait-how-long-are-we-supposed-to-stay-in-lockdown/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://nypost.com/2020/04/26/wait-how-long-are-we-supposed-to-stay-in-lockdown/</a><br>
<br>
Wait, how long are we supposed to stay in lockdown? <br>
<br>
What are we waiting for? The question can be posed in either a wild,<br>
irresponsible way — or a sane, measured way. In New York, our “pause”<br>
will continue until at least May 15, and New Yorkers are asking, in a<br>
measured, sane way: What exactly are we waiting for?<br>
<br>
In the beginning, we had a goal: to flatten the curve. We were warned<br>
that COVID-19 would overtake our hospitals and cause a health-system<br>
collapse. We were to stay home to give our medical heroes a fighting<br>
chance.<br>
<br>
So we did, and thanks to the strength of our system, it worked. The<br>
Javits Center never filled up; the USS Comfort is sailing away. Three<br>
weeks ago, Gov. Andrew Cuomo was vowing to seize ventilators from<br>
upstate hospitals and send them to Gotham. Last week, we were<br>
dispatching our ventilators out to other states.<br>
<br>
We did our part; we flattened the curve. So why is there no move to<br>
loosen regulations?<br>
<br>
In February and March, expert and elite opinion seemed to understand<br>
that patience with lockdowns would at some point wear thin. But not<br>
anymore. Last week, Cuomo used a graphic in his daily presentation that<br>
listed the lengths of various wars and previous pandemics. The 1910<br>
cholera outbreak lasted a year. World War II lasted six years. And so<br>
on.<br>
<br>
The message: We haven’t been living through this that long, and our<br>
ancestors had it far worse. But if we are looking at years of lockdown,<br>
we need to be informed of it, we need a debate — and we need a plan.<br>
<br>
Otherwise, it isn’t relevant that the Vietnam War lasted eight years,<br>
and the governor has to stop shaming us for looking for a light at the<br>
end of this hell-tunnel.<br>
<br>
It’s also becoming apparent that staying closed is some weird poke in<br>
the eye to President Trump. Hyper-polarization means that if the<br>
president wants to awaken the nation from its devastating economic coma,<br>
it must mean that he and his cornpone followers are wrong. Smart people<br>
— who tend to have lockdown-immune jobs in academe, government and media<br>
— must know better, and they have a license to mock and demean.<br>
<br>
But it isn’t true, as they say, that those of us who want a roadmap to<br>
reopening play down the virus or minimize its deadliness. We lost a lot<br>
in New York. We’ve watched our friends, family and neighbors succumb to<br>
this horrible disease. We understand what’s at stake.<br>
<br>
But there is life beyond COVID-19, too. There are pro-life concerns on<br>
both sides. The pause has meant people are skipping cancer screenings.<br>
The lines at food pantries are scarily long. Last week, Cuomo admitted<br>
that domestic violence is on the rise. “Very bad.” But, he added, it’s<br>
“not death.” Maybe not yet. But these costs are very real, and they have<br>
to be tallied.<br>
<br>
No one sane is pushing to return to “normal.” Normal won’t be back for a<br>
long time, and no one expects it to. If restaurants, bars or movie<br>
theaters opened tomorrow, people still wouldn’t flock to them. We are<br>
walking around in masks and sanitizing our groceries. We get it — we’re<br>
far from normal. We just want to start on the road back. We want to know<br>
the road exists.<br>
<br>
It’s less that we need to know when this ends than we need to know how<br>
it ends. Are we waiting for deaths to fall below a certain daily number?<br>
What is that number? Are we waiting for hospitalizations to evaporate?<br>
For better treatment? For a vaccine? Antibody tests? Herd immunity? New<br>
Yorkers are tough, we can handle the truth.<br>
<br>
But this uncertainty can’t last, or people will decide to leap into<br>
irresponsibility. We need a plan, and we need it now.<br>
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<br>
I disagree with one point she makes... return to normal is exactly<br>
where we need to be, and we need to be there like now. If they open <br>
up theaters, people will go right back to them. Synaguages, without <br>
a doubt.<br>
<br>
We can not survive like this. Anyone who wants to be locked up in <br>
there own house is free to do so.<br>
<br>
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