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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Give Nextdoor an attaboy for not letting certain conversations go to extreme. <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Also give them a points deduction for doing what they did in such a silent manner. Kinda spooky. Or maybe ND has seen essentially the same trolling in numerous neighborhoods. <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Now if Mark Z and company would accept some responsibility for allowing agents to pay to post false information, but I digress. <br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I'm still working on my Top Ten List of why I refuse to FB.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Even when he was actively posting, I felt a bit sorry for our Brooklyn representative. Rick and I can spend many hours on yardwork. If we want to venture further, just cover our faces and we can walk down the street and with no problem keeping distance from anyone else who might be out. I suspect most, if not all, of the Bay Area people on this list also can go for a walk on uncrowded streets. Not so in NYC.<br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">For me, the choice is simple. Better to be broke and hungry than dead or loved ones dead. What we are experiencing is nothing compared with what our parents and grandparents suffered with bombs exploding out of the sky. Or just the possibility of that happening.<br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"> I am also favorably impressed at all of the work-arounds like food pantries and Gov Newsom talking to banks to hold off on evictions. Did B of A fall in line after he used his bully pulpit to call them out? Maybe the missing piece is temporary foregiveness of rent payments by businesses that are shuttered.<br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Where do we get tickets for the parade? <br></div><div><br></div>
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On Friday, April 24, 2020, 12:30:59 AM PDT, Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com> wrote:
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<div>Quoting Paul Zander (<a shape="rect" href="mailto:paulz@ieee.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">paulz@ieee.org</a>):<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> You can re-post the following to your seemingly invulnerable<br clear="none">> neighbor. Meanwhile, soon I will be posting my data of the curve.<br clear="none">> BTW, any word from Reuben? He can be annoying at times, but I hope he<br clear="none">> is still alive and will be back on the list at some time.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Ruben is fine, and I chat with him occasionally over telephone. Given<br clear="none">that he's in Brooklyn, he has to contend with a degree of stress and<br clear="none">isolation/claustrophobia that we can only imagine here in suburban<br clear="none">Silicon Valley. (He's a good guy, and I think well of him always.)<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I didn't circle back to my correspondent on NextDoor, partly because I <br clear="none">really didn't want to do the "debate" he explicitly was seeking, but<br clear="none">mostly because obviously TPTB at NextDoor disliked that entire suthread<br clear="none">enough that it got silently and completely nuked, without any comment to<br clear="none">the several participants.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">For the record, I don't think he believes himself invulnerable. He<br clear="none">holds a sincere (and unfounded) set of tenets about the nature of the<br clear="none">disease threat, public statistics, and related matters that apparently<br clear="none">lead him to public policy recommendatiions -- some on public health<br clear="none">matters, others not.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">As with other commenters, he's not in any way wrong about the harmful<br clear="none">effect on many aspects of life from shutdown of commerce and industry.<br clear="none">As a friend of mine (Beth) puts it, the economics issue puts society in<br clear="none">a damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don't situation, and I'm far from<br clear="none">claiming that easy answers exist.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">[...]<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> Starting with "wash your hands and don't sneeze" locally the rate of<br clear="none">> new cases has slowed. Now appears to be taking more than 2 weeks to<br clear="none">> double the number of cases. The medical people are still very busy,<br clear="none">> but they are no longer bracing for a tsunami to hit. Meanwhile NYC<br clear="none">> did not put the orders in place as soon. Most boroughs of NYC have<br clear="none">> more cases and more deaths than all of CA. Thank you Gavin.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I agree, FWIW -- but the biggest ticker-tape parade, when we can have<br clear="none">one again, is owed to the six Bay Area county health officers for the<br clear="none">March 16th shelter-in-place order. That was both gutsy at the time, and<br clear="none">(as proved later) crucially timed to save many lives. It was _the_ <br clear="none">reason why the Bay Area has done better than anywhere else in the USA,<br clear="none">and continues to cope better than elsewhere.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">It was also their leadership that gave cover (and a detailed model) to<br clear="none">Gov. Newsom for his similar statewide decision four days later.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">The guests of honour at the future ticker-tape parade (the signatories<br clear="none">of the March 16th order):<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Dr. Erica Pan, Alameda County<br clear="none">Dr. Chris Farnitano, Contra Costa County<br clear="none">Dr. Lisa Santora, Marin County<br clear="none">Dr. Tomás J. Aragón, San Francisco County<br clear="none">Dr. Scott Morrow, San Mateo County<br clear="none">Dr. Sara H. Cody, Santa Clara County<br clear="none">Dr. Lisa B. Hernandez, City of Berkeley<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Dr. Cody has been particularly impressive.<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/03/29/she-shut-down-the-bay-area-to-slow-the-deadly-coronavirus-none-of-us-really-believed-we-would-do-it/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/03/29/she-shut-down-the-bay-area-to-slow-the-deadly-coronavirus-none-of-us-really-believed-we-would-do-it/</a><div class="ydpd35e887byqt5582748875" id="ydpd35e887byqtfd15800"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">conspire mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">conspire@linuxmafia.com</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire</a><br clear="none"></div></div>
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