<div dir="ltr">How much to pre order one of those shirts? Make mine purple and size Large.<div><br></div><div>No I only got as far as Algebra-2 in HS and that was undecypherable.</div><div><br></div><div>My Trig flunking was in College.</div><div><br></div><div>Once you solve the triangle, you can then solve for the arc represented by the angle.</div><div>Yah theres more than trangles to it, but an awful lot of problems invilve solving in terms of trangles.</div><div>If you dont get the triangles in trig, you wont get the rest of it either.</div><div><br></div><div>I had the understanding that Calculus helps you determint the area under a curve.</div><div>Someone on here a while back commented that Calculus REALLY helps you determine the area of an irregular surface if you are working in 3 axis.</div><div>I found that an interesting point. I know better than to ask about using calculus in 4 axis.</div><div>Ah crap, Calc in 4 dimensions, now Im going to have nightmares.</div><div>Gee THANKS PAL!</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 9:47 PM <a href="mailto:paulz@ieee.org">paulz@ieee.org</a> <<a href="mailto:paulz@ieee.org">paulz@ieee.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
<div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">I think we need to order some shirts, "No bad math, just bad math teachers!"</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">And compounding the situation is that in many schools, it's quite acceptable to say that you are not good at math. <br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>Just to be argumentative, there are a lot of other applications for trig besides calculating triangles. <br></div><div><br></div>I
am guessing that Texx had trig in high school. There would be no
reason for a HS curriculum to assume that students would be using trig
primarily for AC circuit theory. Heck, my HS didn't have any classes in
electronics.</div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">Anyway, for anyone thinking about learning a math subject, I highly recommend Kahn Acadamy. IMO the presentations are clear and the cost is free!</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">I'd like to get opinions from anyone else who has tried KA.</div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div></div><div><br></div>
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<div><div id="gmail-m_6366913523353158729ydpd71b152cyiv1062082778"><div dir="ltr">Not getting trig can KILL you in AC theory classes.<div>I didnt get trig then, so I was trying to use pythagorean to do polar - rectangular conversion and obviously flunked the test.</div><div><br></div><div>The problem was that they started out with all this complicated junk and completely obfuscated the subject.</div><div><br></div><div>What they SHOULD have done and DIDNT, was to explain that trig is about arcs & angles.</div><div>If you have 2 sides and an angle or 2 angles and a side, and you know WHICH sides & angles you have, you can reconstruct the triangle.</div><div>To me, those 2 lines explain the whole subject most of the way.</div><div><br></div><div>I ended up completely learning math up to Calc in 2010 and i now totally get it.</div><div>I havent taken another crack at Calc yet, though.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 1:58 AM Nick Moffitt <<a href="mailto:nick@zork.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nick@zork.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 15Apr2020 06:51pm (-0700), Deirdre Saoirse Moen wrote:<br>
> However, my dad, who could do calc in his sleep (physicist), recommended I skip Trig as it was a waste of time. I believed him. Now, for him that was probably true, but for me, it was not true. <br>
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I had a similar problem, where I took calculus twice but *neither* integrated trig properly. I ended up near the end of my second attempt with a burning question in my head, so I finally took it to EFNet #math and asked there. <br>
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The first answer came from someone who did not assume any knowledge on my part, and it began: "First, consider the unit circle, and a right triangle with one vertex at the center..." <br>
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I aced the exams after that, because after an evening of flipping through my textbook I found that there WAS a little chapter on the role of trigonometry in calculus. I had taken trig under the name "pre-calculus" but even that class had left the actual POINT behind so early that we just performed recipe application by rote on abstract symbols. I had to re-learn a full year of maths in a single weekend, but it happened at just the right moment to actually stick.<br>
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