<div dir="ltr">I didnt mean to infer that you were to be someones servant.<div><br></div><div>You give the appearance of enjoying the spotlight, and being brighter than most, you might as well don the professrial robe.</div><div>You are fulfilling the mission part of the time anyway.</div><div><br></div><div>I do believe that brighter people DO have a moral duty in return for their gift of higher IQ.</div><div><br></div><div>Actually, you explained the math behind the passwd question quite well, factual and to the point.</div><div>You actually did a better job than I can remember anyone doing.</div><div>Some people will lose you in the details, but you got to it and did it.<br></div><div>Ive gotten the explanation from others in the past and they obscured more than they explained.</div><div><br></div><div>I can remember a number of times catching informal lectures from either here or in your kitchen.</div><div>You really are pretty good at the teaching thing and its a waste for you not to do more.</div><div>You give the appearance of enjoying it.</div><div><br></div><div>OK the systemd was more of an angry rant, but you have been downright educational many times.</div><div><br></div><div>I just wish several of my math teachers had been able to explain stuff without leaving me behind in the dust.</div><div>I might actually have gotten my engineering degree back in the 70s.</div><div><br></div><div>As it turns out, after flunking Trig & Logs 3 times in college, I finally picked them up in 2010 from a Wikipedia article of all things!</div><div>That last line is a major portion of my often flogged point about how few math teachers actuually know what they are talking about.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 2:35 PM Rick Moen <<a href="mailto:rick@linuxmafia.com">rick@linuxmafia.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Quoting Texx (<a href="mailto:texxgadget@gmail.com" target="_blank">texxgadget@gmail.com</a>):<br>
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> Didnt mean to imply that people had to do the math, but explanation of how<br>
> it works it a wise thing to do.<br>
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Um, telling people '26 letters twice in a row have 26 ^ 2 permutations' <br>
isn't explaining how passwords work -- and is also self-evident.<br>
There is nothing to 'explain', really.<br>
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> You are fast to remind people when they are wrong, no criticism here,<br>
> just curiosity, why change now?<br>
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Seems to me, it would have been both pointless and a bit of a jerk move.<br>
<br>
Pretty much anyone who plays around with permutations will see that<br>
the number of letters is the exponent, and writing to Conspire to <br>
merely advise Paul Zander that he'd accidentally inverted order<br>
would have been rubbing his nose in that without any particular gain<br>
(given that anyone who works the problem sees the order of elements).<br>
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> You are right that Conspire doesnt HAVE to, but it would be a good idea<br>
> anyway.<br>
<br>
I'm not paid to be someone's servant, here. <br>
<br>
Maybe I cannot sing and dance _quite_ as well as Gene Kelly could, but <br>
at least I have a good grasp on how to have a good and worthwile time<br>
on a mailing list, and being a free-of-charge educational resource for<br>
others just isn't in it. (I speak for myself: Other subscribers <br>
are of course free to run Texx University if they lack other hobbies.)<br>
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> I actually hadnt noticed.<br>
> Id been too busy to notice the suspension till it passed.<br>
<br>
That's actually slightly unfortunate, since the aim of putting you <br>
on moderated status for misbehaviour was to get your attention.<br>
If you're saying I _didn't_ succeed in getting your attention, then<br>
you may be insisting on learning the hard way, i.e., a listadmin<br>
has a graded series of attention-getting tools at his/her disposal.<br>
<br>
At a certain point in that process, I simplify, to reduce my hassle<br>
and get the problem by degrees off my agenda (because, see 'I am not<br>
paid to be someone's servant, here').<br>
<br>
If I may say so, there's an Open Source 101 common error that might be<br>
occuring here: valuing someone's time and effort at cost if it appears<br>
to be given away for free. Oddly enough, we of the open source<br>
community are pretty good at spotting that syndrome and cutting it off.<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><br>R "Texx" Woodworth<br>Sysadmin, E-Postmaster, IT Molewhacker<br>"Face down, 9 edge 1st, roadkill on the information superdata highway..."<br></div>