<div dir="ltr">Dont forget, this whole thing is a democratic conspiracy perpetrated by Nancy Pelosi.<div>Its true!  The whitehouse SAYS so!</div><div><br></div><div>("WHY?  Because WESAYSO!")<br><div><br></div><div>The Lieber Office tools are nice, but you have to know what to do before you use them.</div><div><br></div><div>Im certain that anyone having had a stats class gets the algorythm for these, but those without stats classes,</div><div>I dont see the method being taught in school.</div><div><br></div><div>Rick grew up in a place with top notch schools, as did a few others on this list.</div><div>Many of us, however, were in schools where the teachers took the job because it gave summers off.</div><div><br></div><div>Im pretty sure I have the followinbg wrong:</div><div>Given a 8digit passwd, the number of combinations are 8 to the power of however many possibilities each digit can contain.</div><div>I screwed that up, right?</div><div><br></div><div>I ask this because Im told that the old 8 digit passwd, no matter how random is too short now.</div><div>Im being told to use a phrase somewhere near 32 chars long.</div><div>I tried to calculate the number of permutations on 32 chars, only to realize that I probably dont have it right.</div><div>(FINALLY the thread starts to wind back in the direction LINUX)</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 4:23 PM <a href="mailto:paulz@ieee.org">paulz@ieee.org</a> <<a href="mailto:paulz@ieee.org">paulz@ieee.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Just because the birthday problem was not taught in 
your school, it's no excuse for not being able to dig in, especially 
with all of the online resources available.  I'm sure everyone on this 
email has had a problem they had to solve, and no clue where to begin, 
but you start trying things or reading man pages or Google using the 
error string or ...<br clear="none"><div><div id="gmail-m_6753387416943090967ydp64b1cfccyiv4077837560"><div><div style="font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">It took less than a minute with LibreOffice to do the computations.  <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Column 1 is just integer index.</div><div dir="ltr">Column 2 is one less than the number above.</div><div dir="ltr">Column 3 the probability from the previous line * the value in column 2 / 365</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div>
<table cellspacing="0" border="0"><colgroup width="107" span="3"></colgroup><tbody><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">1</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">365</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">1.000</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">2</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">364</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.997</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">3</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">363</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.992</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">4</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">362</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.984</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">5</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">361</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.973</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">6</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">360</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.960</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">7</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">359</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.944</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">8</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">358</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.926</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">9</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">357</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.905</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">10</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">356</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.883</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">11</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">355</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.859</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">12</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">354</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.833</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">13</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">353</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.806</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">14</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">352</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.777</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">15</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">351</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.747</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">16</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">350</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.716</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">17</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">349</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.685</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">18</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">348</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.653</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">19</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">347</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.621</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">20</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">346</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.589</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">21</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">345</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.556</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">22</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">344</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.524</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">23</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">343</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.493</td></tr><tr><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" height="21" align="right">24</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">342</td><td colspan="1" rowspan="1" align="right">0.462</td></tr></tbody></table>
</div><div><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><div>Personally, think the pond scum problem is a simple, but good example of non-linear growth.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">As for the idiot-in-chief, he keeps talking about how great American's are.  Somehow the number of cases in the US is greater than those in China. And NYC is greater than all of CA.  The facts should speak for themselves, except that many politicians find facts rather inconvenient. <br clear="none"></div></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div><div><br clear="none"></div>
        
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                    On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 3:30:16 PM PDT, Rick Moen <<a href="mailto:rick@linuxmafia.com" target="_blank">rick@linuxmafia.com</a>> wrote:
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><br>R "Texx" Woodworth<br>Sysadmin, E-Postmaster, IT Molewhacker<br>"Face down, 9 edge 1st, roadkill on the information superdata highway..."<br></div>