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On Sunday, March 22, 2020, 6:23:42 PM PDT, Peter Knaggs <peter.knaggs@gmail.com> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydpdfcaff48yiv9067627929"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Paul,</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I also find the Microsoft licenses hard to understand, although I do have some</div><div>simple first-hand experience, and my conclusion regarding running Microsoft</div><div>within a virtual machine is that unless I purchased the full retail version and</div><div>used it for only that purpose, it would not be a license-compliant use.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>The reason I think this is that the majority of the Microsoft licenses that I</div><div>have received in the past were in the category of OEM licenses, for example</div><div>I purchased a machine from an individual on eBay who had purchased an</div><div>OEM license and since they subsequently sold the machine to me, it was</div><div>valid for me to use the OEM license, but it would not have been valid for</div><div>them to use the machine as OEM licenses are only intended for resellers.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>I have built a machine specifically for running the Microsoft operating</div><div>system, and I found that there was no way for me to avoid purchasing</div><div>a full retail Microsoft license, at the time I think it was around $300</div><div>for a license for what they called "Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate" and</div><div>that specific edition is necessary if you require NFS client access,</div><div>making it quite an expensive operating system.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>For the machine which I bought from eBay with the OEM license,</div><div>since I had to reinstall the operating system for various reasons</div><div>(security being the obvious one), I found the "Activation" process</div><div>for the Microsoft license to be quite simple as long as the CPU</div><div>and motherboard were not swapped out, all that was required</div><div>was to allow the machine to connect to the internet, and as long<br clear="none"></div><div>as I allowed it to contact the activation servers over at Microsoft,</div><div>then it would show as activated again after the clean reinstall.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>On another machine, where I did run into a problem where</div><div>the motherboard failed and needed to be replaced with a</div><div>slightly different model as the earlier model was no longer</div><div>available, I had to go through a manual system of calling <br clear="none"></div><div>Microsoft, it took some time to get that one activated, <br clear="none"></div><div>there were a lot more questions to answer. But I think <br clear="none"></div><div>that situation would not happen very often.<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>As far as I understand, Microsoft's OEM license wouldn't</div><div>be a good choice for running inside a virtual machine, as</div><div>a VM is considered to be a machine you "built yourself"<br clear="none"></div><div>even though it's not real it's not a machine you plan to</div><div>resell to a third party. So for that kind of machine, it seems</div><div>that the only valid license is a full retail Microsoft license.</div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Of course that's only my understanding of the stuff,</div><div>I'm continually surprised by how complicated it is to <br clear="none"></div><div>understand the Microsoft licenses. That's why I tend</div><div>to only use them in the most simplistic way possible,</div><div>and stick with linux for everything that matters.<br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Peter.<br clear="none"></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydpdfcaff48yiv9067627929gmail_quote"><div class="ydpdfcaff48yiv9067627929yqt6910088731" id="ydpdfcaff48yiv9067627929yqt04011"><div class="ydpdfcaff48yiv9067627929gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 5:52 PM <a shape="rect" href="mailto:paulz@ieee.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">paulz@ieee.org</a> <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:paulz@ieee.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">paulz@ieee.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="ydpdfcaff48yiv9067627929gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div dir="ltr">Long long ago, we discussed running multiple OS's on one computer. One aspect of the problem was that it is now very rare for a PC to come with windows installation media. <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">I was looking for something else, when I stumbled onto the following page. The way I read it, if the PC already has Win10 installed, you can download and create a new media and do a reinstall without paying for a license. If the pc was using Win 8, you would have to pay for a new license.<br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><a shape="rect">https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10</a></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Now, if I wanted the primary OS to be Linux and then use VMware or (?) to run windows, I still might have to pay for the license because the environment isn't the same. <br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">I don't expect to do any of this right now, but thought maybe the info would be useful.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">
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