<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">On Feb 9, 2020, at 18:52, <a href="mailto:paulz@ieee.org" class="">paulz@ieee.org</a> wrote:<br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class=""><div class="ydpfae22c31yahoo-style-wrap" style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div class=""></div>
<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Hope there was a good turnout. Yet another 2nd Saturday when I had too many conflicts.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">The link below predicts that no one will be using these languages, at least for work, by 2030. At one time, I thought I was headed to a career as a Perl monger. I concede that python has largely replaced it. People seem to think that getting indents correct is easier than ending statements with";"<br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><div class="">Perl<br class="">Objective-C<br class="">Ruby<br class="">R<br class="">CoffeeScript<br class=""><br class=""><div class=""><a href="https://insights.dice.com/2020/02/03/5-programming-languages-you-wont-use-2030/?amp&utm_campaign=Advisory_DiceAdvisor_H1B&utm_source=Responsys&utm_medi" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://insights.dice.com/2020/02/03/5-programming-languages-you-wont-use-2030/?amp&utm_campaign=Advisory_DiceAdvisor_H1B&utm_source=Responsys&utm_medi</a></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""><div class="">Apologies for the necro-reply, but this large survey response (of 2290 Apple platform developers) just came out today.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Apart from Swift/Objective-C (the assumed languages), other languages, in order:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">JavaScript (45.4%)</div><div class="">Python (30.8%)</div><div class="">Ruby (21.8%)</div><div class="">Java (20.6%) - first major Android Platform language</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In order after that:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Kotlin (next major Android platform language), TypeScript, C++, C, C#.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In no particular order, also mentioned: Rust, PHP, Go, Lua, Elixir, Dart, Haskell.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Perl didn’t even make the list, nor did the others mentioned except for Ruby.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://iosdevsurvey.com/2019/01-apple-platform-development/#q10" class="">https://iosdevsurvey.com/2019/01-apple-platform-development/#q10</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Only real questions of Linux interest are the server-side: <a href="https://iosdevsurvey.com/2019/08-swift-on-the-server/#q52" class="">https://iosdevsurvey.com/2019/08-swift-on-the-server/#q52</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Vapor deploys 87.2% vs. Kitura 14.9% (of 335 survey responses).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">On q53, one of the larger deploys of Vapor was on vapor.cloud, which is shutting down at the end of the month and gives heroku migration instructions. Sad panda. However, the project will continue and will permit deployment onto third-party services, it just won’t be a service itself anymore. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I’m seriously genuinely surprised that Microsoft Visual Studio Code is the second most preferred code editor. Vim is 4th place. <a href="https://iosdevsurvey.com/2019/11-developer-tools/#q69" class="">https://iosdevsurvey.com/2019/11-developer-tools/#q69</a></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Deirre</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></body></html>