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<font face="Courier New, Courier, monospace"> I still have
Comcast business with <br>
five static IPs and, at least when I <br>
was using it as such, no blockage of <br>
any ports whatsoever. <br>
I've abandoned putting servers on <br>
it because they (three generations) <br>
have gotten wiped. I do not know <br>
enough of sys adm and also networking <br>
to defend myself, so if I ever decide <br>
to put up a web site, I'll use some <br>
hosting service such as SquareSpace <br>
that has a dedicate net ops team to <br>
manage intrusions from without. <br>
<br>
You'll be discussing your ISP <br>
research on Tuesday, November 19, at <br>
Henry's Hunan at 110 Natoma near New <br>
Montgomery? <br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/14/19 9:55 PM, Michael Paoli
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:20191114215556.759527z71rngpk2s@webmail.rawbw.com">Ah,
yes, well, I've certainly started my research on options for ISPs,
<br>
notably including hosting at home ...
<br>
notably including DNS/mail/list server(s).
<br>
<br>
And ... BALUG next Tu - I've come up with discussion topic ...
topical
<br>
at that. I'll likely have website updated and announcements out
(well)
<br>
before noon tomorrow. Essentially, something approximating:
<br>
Bay Area ISPs for hosting at home / Democratization of The
Internet
<br>
<br>
Most notably, not only discussions of what options are out there,
<br>
but the more general issue of most ISPs basically wanting to sell
a
<br>
"consumer" service - no static IPs - often not even an option for
such,
<br>
ports not only blocked by default, but some won't allow 'em period
(e.g.
<br>
TCP port 25). (I've got unfettered IPv6 (tunneled over IPv4) ...
but
<br>
alas, not all SMTP TCP port 25 on 'da Internet has or also has
IPv6 ...
<br>
yet).
<br>
<br>
Anyway, something approximating that for meeting topic (I've a wee
bit 'o
<br>
word crafting ahead of me ... notably for web page &
announcements).
<br>
<br>
And, as for my research on ISPs ... have started that fair bit,
...
<br>
alas, I don't happen to also already have Comcast Business with
static
<br>
IP(s) to spare in the residence ... so don't have that path of
least
<br>
resistance option. And yeah, for reasons, I'd prefer not Comcast,
but ...
<br>
<br>
Anyway, haven't found an "ideal" solution yet. Did come across
one quite
<br>
promising near-miss, though. Don't know about general quality of
the
<br>
operation, but at least on the surface, LMi.net seemed highly
promising,
<br>
... at least for my location in Berkeley. Just one big issue
that's
<br>
probably a deal breaker though ... TCP port 25 ... no way to get
that
<br>
opened, as they resell from Sonic's service, and Sonic is (at
least to
<br>
them), hell no - not negotiable - on TCP port 25. *Other* than
that,
<br>
seemed like it might'a made excellent fit (enough static IPs,
reasonable
<br>
cost, ample bandwidth, ... mostly unfettered Internet access, ...
alas,
<br>
notwithstanding TCP port 25). Anyway, still workin' through what
may be
<br>
sufficiently viable (and hopefully doesn't suck too much ... like
certain
<br>
provider(s) I would prefer to avoid). Anyway, more stuff to
discuss
<br>
at Tuesday's meeting. :-) "Of course" some "discussions" about
such
<br>
may also happen on-list(s) ... before and/or after meeting, etc.
<br>
<br>
I still also, just for my own situation, have fair bit more
research
<br>
to do ... guesimating I'm only about 1/3 of the way to making
decision.
<br>
Most of 'em have lead times that aren't too horrific, so I don't
want
<br>
to decide too quickly and without sufficient information - and
potentially
<br>
regret the decision. Good ISP service, that that reasonably well
covers
<br>
my needs and interests ... and those using the services I provide
too ...
<br>
fairly important to get that "right" ... or, well, at least as
close
<br>
as feasible.
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">From: "Rick Moen"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rick@linuxmafia.com"><rick@linuxmafia.com></a>
<br>
Subject: Re: [conspire] (forw) Legacy DSL ending at Raw
Bandwidth on 12/19/19 - please read carefully!
<br>
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 18:08:42 -0800
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Quoting Michael Paoli
(<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu">Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu</a>):
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">Sonic's fiber would generally be a
decent choice, except the don't
<br>
provide static IP addresses on it and have pretty much said
they
<br>
won't be.
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Sonic does offer static IP on Fusion DSL (ADSL2+ & VDSL2)
service.
<br>
<br>
Sonic does not offer static IP on Fusion IP Broadband or Fusion
Gigabit
<br>
Fiber. (They say, very vaguely, that the lack of static IP on
those two
<br>
services might change in the future.)
<br>
<br>
<br>
Among the numerous reasons I distrust Sonic is that it requires
(I
<br>
think?) particular makes/models of DSL 'modems'. They supply
one of
<br>
several models made by Pace.
<br>
<br>
One of their support Web pages mentions that, yes, if you're one
of
<br>
those privacy-sensitive control freaks who are not thrilled
about Sonic
<br>
being able to control and spy on your entire uplink from
_inside_ your
<br>
house, you can indeed switch your Pace device into Bridge mode,
but that
<br>
this configuration 'is not recommended or supported', and that
'iif you
<br>
configure your Pace [model #] as a basic bridge, Sonic.net
Support staff
<br>
may need you to reset your modem to its default state for
<br>
troubleshooting purposes'.
<br>
<br>
I.e., 'If you don't let us have root on your router, gosh, I
guess we
<br>
won't have total visibility into your end.' Yes, guys, we
know. The
<br>
only point of contention is where you consider that a i bug, and
I
<br>
consider it a feature.
<br>
<br>
<br>
Sonic's Fusion IP Broadband and Fusion Gigabit Fiber services
both block
<br>
outbound connections to port 25 (SMTP). Check out this
mealy-mouthed
<br>
bullshit from their CEO about both the port-blocking and
omission of
<br>
static IP availability:
<br>
<br>
Customer's Q: Does anyone know if Sonic is planning to offer
static IPs
<br>
to gigabit fiber customers anytime soon ?
<br>
<br>
CEO Dane Jasper's A: No, we are not.
<br>
<br>
Residential gigabit fiber service is not for business or
hosting use,
<br>
and the vast majority of consumer applications no longer
require static
<br>
IP addressing.
<br>
<br>
Using a dynamic IP configuration also allows for a simpler,
scaleable
<br>
network architecture and straightforward management, key as we
continue
<br>
our rapid fiber network roll-out. Less complexity also reduces
errors,
<br>
increasing uptime.
<br>
<br>
That last paragraph in particular is such an insultingly absurd
<br>
smoke-screen, I almost turned on the kitchen ceiling fan out of
habit.
<br>
<br>
Anyway, it's obvious that Sonic is definitely not the sort of
company I
<br>
like to deal with. I'm tempted to say 'Oh, just FOAD, Sonic',
but
<br>
that's a tiny bit unfair. They're not actually notably awful,
they're
<br>
just way, way overhyped by some overly credulous members of the
local Linux
<br>
community who really ought to know better. (I'm not naming
names, here,
<br>
because I'm trying to be nice, but you wankers know who you
are.)
<br>
<br>
Of course, I'm not thrilled about Comcast, nor of course
AT&T. Relying
<br>
on an AT&T reseller would qualify as 'evil and incompetence
mitigated by
<br>
outsiders who on a good day might be less so', i.e.,
uncomfortably tied
<br>
to AT&T IP-provisioning infrastructure in exactly the way
that Raw
<br>
Bandwidth Communications DSL has averted.
<br>
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">You can get static IP from Comcast
Business, or from AT&T and their
<br>
resellers.
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Chez Moen has three still-unassigned static IPv4 addresses on
Cheryl's
<br>
Comcast Business uplink (/29 CIDR netblock), so accepting
Cheryl's
<br>
gracious offer thereof is currently my path of least resistance
-- for
<br>
now.
<br>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">You might also check
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.wavebroadband.com">www.wavebroadband.com</a> to see if they can reach
<br>
you with their cable modem service.
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
I've now asked for contact (from Wave Broadband), which
doubtless means
<br>
dealing with some slavering salesdroid in a few days -- or a
canned
<br>
statement that I'm not in their service area. (They have one of
those
<br>
deals where they want a chance to assess you and guesstimate the
weight
<br>
of your wallet before they're willing to give you any specific
<br>
information. If you've ever dealt with Oracle Corp. or with
most parts
<br>
of IBM, it's like that.)
<br>
<br>
The availability map on this page suggests (if accurate) that
they have
<br>
no service to West Menlo Park:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://broadbandnow.com/Wave-Broadband">https://broadbandnow.com/Wave-Broadband</a>
<br>
</blockquote>
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