<div dir="ltr">Id heard of Open Late but It looked like another gathering of people with their noses stuck in their laptops, doing nothing thast they couldnt do at home.<div><br></div><div>A lot of so called user groups IF they have a speaver, its usually someone delivering a comercial for something Ill never use, but they are basically there to fill the silence that would otherwise be there.</div><div>A lot of people go to user groups to be entertained, not really educated.</div><div>If I walk out of a user group without learning anything, my time there is wasted.</div><div>Unfortunately, most user groups I visit are definitely wasted time.</div><div><br></div><div>That was why the East Bay AWS group was such a big deal.</div><div>It actually taught us stuff.</div><div>It wasnt simply entertainment, or "audio filler".</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 9:48 AM Michael Paoli <<a href="mailto:Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu">Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">> From: Texx <<a href="mailto:texxgadget@gmail.com" target="_blank">texxgadget@gmail.com</a>><br>
> Subject: [conspire] East Bay AWS usergroup meeting<br>
> Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2019 00:31:49 -0700<br>
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> This was a REAL users group meeting, the likes Ive not seen in years.<br>
> This was an engaged crowd, quite knowlwdgeable to boot.<br>
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If you've not checked it out, you might also want to try<br>
Open Late - sponsored by OpenDNS - on (egad) Meetup.com<br>
They do good technical presentations ... but I've not been in<br>
some year(s) (2ish or so?), so not sure what/how they're doing<br>
at present. Oh, and for better or worse, typically includes<br>
free pizza and some beverage(s). I think last time I went it<br>
was a (pretty dang) technical talk on gpg - most specifically on<br>
"version 2", and advanced/new features, troubleshooting, internals<br>
and structure (also of PGP in general), etc. Good stuff! :-)<br>
<br>
> The guy was hysterically funny.<br>
> Who knew accountants could be fun??!!??<br>
Oh, working with a good/excellent accountant/CFO can be *highly*<br>
impressive. Perhaps I missed out on the more entertaining bits,<br>
but among my experiences - one CFO I worked directly under,<br>
was exceedingly adept at what he did. He was an extreme expert<br>
in finding opportunities all over the place to save us money - and<br>
practically and highly workably too - not some theoretical b.s. or<br>
some cr*p that would have negative impacts and end up costing more<br>
directly or indirectly than it would save. Likewise he was also<br>
quite good and finding us ways to increase net profits - everything<br>
from where/how/why/when to adjust prices, to new revenue opportunities,<br>
better marketing/advertising (and where/how to target those $s), etc. -<br>
lots of good/impressive results under that CFO.<br>
Likewise, once upon a time, my boss's boss was CFO of ... Wells Fargo.<br>
I was in great position (flat hierarchy) in the company (me, worker bee,<br>
nobody under me, and only 3 steps up the chain to CEO). Anyway, at least<br>
with what bits I did get to see, that particular CFO was excellent and<br>
highly effective. Of course with many big companies - as Wells Fargo<br>
was then, and is even more so now - things can vary greatly depending<br>
where one is within the organization (one's manager, what part of<br>
company, located where ...). At other times at Wells Fargo,<br>
I could go up 5 levels of management, and with the exception of one<br>
mostly remote manager (my boss at the time), I wouldn't even make it<br>
off the same quadrant of the same floor ... and it was many more hops<br>
to make it all the way up to CEO (something like 9 from me to CEO) ...<br>
yes, I was way deeply buried in hierarchy in that other<br>
position/group/location ... and even though it was still the same<br>
company.<br>
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> The problem is that in the stampede to the cloud, people forget that the<br>
> cost saving of the cloud is the ability to spin up resources on the spot<br>
> and terminate them just as fast.<br>
><br>
> If your machine is going to be up all the time, the cloud will be more<br>
> expensive than leaving it running in a co lo cage.<br>
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That can be (partially?) mitigated within, e.g. AWS. You likely heard,<br>
but AWS - and likely others have similar - AWS has "reserved instances" -<br>
you pay for 'em whether you use 'em or not ... but at a significantly lower<br>
price than "spot" (pay as/when you use) instances. So, you go with<br>
reserved (at least in AWS) if you're going to use then all - or most all -<br>
or even much, of the time. Use spot just for stuff that will go up and<br>
down a lot, or only be needed for shorter bursts. And don't think<br>
per application, think per infrastructure - what's needed to run<br>
*everything* one has in AWS - at any given point in time - if it needs<br>
be there all (or most) of the time ... reserved instances.<br>
And I'm sure AWS also likes it too - for them, reserved instances is<br>
effectively a "guaranteed" (~year prepaid/promised) income stream,<br>
whereas all that "spot" stuff - it can go away at any time - juicy<br>
margins while it's there, but no guarantees it will continue to be there.<br>
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</blockquote></div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><br>R "Texx" Woodworth<br>Sysadmin, E-Postmaster, IT Molewhacker<br>"Face down, 9 edge 1st, roadkill on the information superdata highway..."<br></div>