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<div>The reason I use EMACS is a simple byproduct of where I was in my career at the time these became widely available. Mid-80's I was already out of school and busy working when I got my first Unix workstation.</div><div><br></div><div>Vi had two drawbacks: Very limited documentation available at that time. If I was still in college, there would probably have been a classmate or someone in the dorm as an informal coach with lots of tips and shortcuts. Also, I was always getting mixed up in which mode I was in. Was typing into my document or typing commands to vi?</div><div><br></div><div>EMACS, on the other hand has no modes. EMACS has an extensive documentation package and the "apropos" function to give appropriate suggestions. The documentation was to complete that I could just show it to some of the people in technical writing. An hour or so later, they were on their way.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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On Saturday, March 9, 2019, 11:30:38 AM PST, Deirdre Saoirse Moen <deirdre@deirdre.net> wrote:
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<div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none">> On Mar 9, 2019, at 11:18 AM, Michael Paoli <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Michael.Paoli@cal.berkeley.edu</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Dang, they didn't include [n]vi. But I guess in fairness, there are a<br clear="none">> lot of flavors/variations of vi - and they only covered one, and<br clear="none">> these days, vim is most commonly used/available among them. Likewise<br clear="none">> they just cover one flavor of emacs, etc.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Yeah, it’d be interesting to see more breakdown. But I had to laugh at how hard Java got ragged on.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">"On the other end of the spectrum is Eclipse: it appears that someone using either Vim or Emacs is more than twice as likely to pass our technical interview as an Eclipse user.”<br clear="none"><br clear="none">"I was surprised to find one huge outlier here: Eclipse! Oddly enough, it appears that even after we pre-screen Eclipse users for their programming skills, they still get offers from only half as many of the onsite interviews we send them to compared with the rest of our population.”<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Also of note:<br clear="none"><br clear="none">"Hey, what happened to PHP? As a former PHP developer myself, I found it interesting that it’s now just a small drop in the “other” bucket. As one of the interviewers here, I’ve personally never seen anyone interview in PHP yet (although others have).”<br clear="none"><br clear="none">I have interviewed in PHP, just not in at least ten years.<div class="ydpef719bd7yqt7993663869" id="ydpef719bd7yqtfd10342"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Deirdre<br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">conspire mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">conspire@linuxmafia.com</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire</a><br clear="none"></div></div></div>
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