<div dir="ltr">I would add to Paul's statements that it also gives me a list of all the 3rd parties called into the party (pun intended) whenever I go to a site. Just knowing it, even if I end up whitelisting all, is good knowledge of what types of functionality a web site is pulling in.<div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 1:37 PM Rick Moen <<a href="mailto:rick@linuxmafia.com">rick@linuxmafia.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Quoting Paul Zander (<a href="mailto:paulz@ieee.org" target="_blank">paulz@ieee.org</a>):<br>
<br>
> Someone, not on the CABAL list, asked why I use No Script and didn't<br>
> it limit my access to some fancy websites. Below is my reply. Did I<br>
> get this reasonably correct?<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> More and more websites use javascript. Also many of those scripts<br>
> link to other websites. <br>
> <br>
> Loading other websites means more web traffic. It takes time to<br>
> establish the links. What is the benefit to me to load facebook or<br>
> googlesyndication? <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Javascripts take up CPU cycles on my computer. Using my resources to<br>
> serve up ads I am not interested in. After I have bought something on<br>
> line, why do I want to see ads for the same stuff?<br>
> <br>
> Last, and most important, once a script is running on my computer,<br>
> there are too many ways the bad actors can do things I don't want.<br>
<br>
Sounds about right to me (alhough one could detail some of the many bad<br>
actions by those bad actors to which you allude). I'd even shorten it <br>
to: 'Because I want my Web browser to do what *I* ask, not what a bunch<br>
of spooks and criminals want it to do.'<br>
<br>
<br>
Javascript has turned out to be the keystone technology that drives<br>
not just dynamic Web sites but just about all of the more-nefarious uses<br>
of the Web (keystone in the sense that it's glue code making other <br>
pieces of badness able to communicate and function), something possible<br>
because it is grossly overfeatured and by default has an appalling lack<br>
of security and privacy safeguards. The major browser manufacturers<br>
have no incentive to fix that problem, in part because their priorities<br>
are influenced by money they get from targeted advertising and other<br>
shady industries that rely on data-mining and spying on users. So, the<br>
lazy assumption that 'If this were dangerous and ripe for abuse, the<br>
browser coders would have done something about it' turns out to be<br>
grossly mistaken.<br>
<br>
A depressing number of people using the Web utterly fail to face the <br>
classic questions 'Who's the customer? What's the product? What pays<br>
for the costs of these things?' So, they resist the notion that major <br>
Web browser companies aren't strongly (or, frankly, at all) motivated to<br>
look after their personal interests. They somehow think they're the<br>
customers, even though they never paid a nickel.<br>
<br>
E.g., I kept hearing Linux and other computer users expressing outrage<br>
and incomprehension that Mozilla, Inc. keeps cutting the funding behind<br>
the Thunderbird mail program, and moving to EOL the project. I ask<br>
them: What's Mozilla's revenue model for Thunderbird? And, by<br>
contrast, what's its revenue model for Firefox? Often, they can't get<br>
their minds around the contrast, or indeed what the issue is, at all.<br>
<br>
tl;dr: Gross intellectual laziness to the point of failure to grasp<br>
self-interest remains a thing.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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