<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:lucida console, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yiv7231235427"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472664366402_4917"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472664366402_4916" style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:lucida console, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45358"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45472">Yes, I definitely agree, if possible, to use the official packages, in this case Debian Testing. And, amazingly there was a very recent update to Iceweasel / Firefox that fixed my problem.</span></div><div id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45470"><br clear="none"><span></span></div><div id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45494"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45495">I followed the link to Linuxmafia, where you suggest several add-ons:</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45705"><br clear="none"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46258">NoScript </span><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45708"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46259"> I have been using this for several years, following discussion at CABAL. :-)</span> Lately it has sometimes been cumbersome as web-sites use multiple cloud servers to hold desired content.<br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45822"><br clear="none"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45708"></span></div><div id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45823"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45495">User Agent Switcher This was just discussed as a way to spoof Iceweasel. Not that I need that particular situation now.<br clear="none"></span></div><div id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45825"><br clear="none"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45495"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46403"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46427">RequestPolicy </span></div><div id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46507"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46440">Adblock Plus And I thought just NoScript was quite an improvement.</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46526"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46509">Beef Taco <br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46536"><br clear="none"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46509"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46537"><br clear="none"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46539">HTTPS Everywhere This sounds like a winner.</span></div><div id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46407"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46359"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46027">BugMeNot 404 not found</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46393"><br clear="none"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46027"></span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46300"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46307">OptimizeGoogle </span><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46308"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46309">Server Not Found</span></span></div><div id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46279"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46027"><br clear="none"></span></div><div id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46354"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46027">Firebug Looks like it could be very useful for web development. </span></div><br clear="none"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46027">Torbutton <br id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46170" clear="none">Now that the Tor Browser includes a patched version of Firefox, and because we don't have enough developer resources to keep up with the accelerated Firefox release schedule, the toggle model of Torbutton is no longer supported. Users should be using Tor Browser, not installing Torbutton themselves.<br id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45594" clear="none"></span><br clear="none"><div id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46196"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46027"></span><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45495"></span><br id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45596" clear="none"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45495"></span></div><div id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46464"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45495"></span><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46496"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45495"><br clear="none"></span></div><div id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46498"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_46500"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45495"></span><br clear="none"></div><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45495"></span><div class="yiv7231235427qtdSeparateBR" id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45392"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv7231235427yqt4154244094" id="yiv7231235427yqt11976"></div></div></div></div><div class=".yiv7231235427yahoo_quoted"> <div id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45369" style="font-family:lucida console, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"> <div id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45368" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr" id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45367"> <font id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45366" size="2" face="Arial"> </font><hr id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45667" size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> conspire@linuxmafia.com <br clear="none"> <b id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45365"><span id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45364" style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, August 30, 2016 9:36 PM<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [conspire] bank doesn't like Iceweasel<br clear="none"> </div> <div class="yiv7231235427y_msg_container" id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45373"><br clear="none">Quoting Paul Zander (<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45468" ymailto="mailto:paulz@ieee.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:paulz@ieee.org">paulz@ieee.org</a>):<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> No, I will have to try the spoof. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">User Agent Switcher is one of the essential extensions for<br clear="none">Firefox/Iceweasel. You can find information about it and other<br clear="none">recommended extensions here:<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" id="yiv7231235427yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1472609467101_45374" target="_blank" href="http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/kicking.html#linuxbrowser">http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/kicking.html#linuxbrowser</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">However....<br clear="none"><br clear="none">As always, when I link to an upstream development site (as I do for all<br clear="none">of the recommended extensions), I am _not_ recommending you fetch the<br clear="none">code from there. You should always check your distribution's packaged<br clear="none">software to see if there is a maintained distro package. In this case,<br clear="none">the Debian package for User Agent Switcher is one named<br clear="none">xul-ext-useragent . You'll want to apt-get install that.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> First I found these links that says the ice age has come to an end.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Oh, good. The trademark idiocy that made Iceweasel, Icedove, and Iceape<br clear="none">a practical necessity was always annoying, and entirely not of the<br clear="none">Debian Project's making.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> The /packages.debian.org/unstable does list a firefox package. It is<br clear="none">> not listed in testing.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Then, use Iceweasel until there's (once again) a maintained Firefox<br clear="none">package in your chosen Debian branch.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> Then I found the following link that there is an iceweasel add on.<br clear="none">> <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://www.netdip.com/how-to-make-iceweasel-identify-itself-as-firefox-using-the-user-agent-switcher-extension/">http://www.netdip.com/how-to-make-iceweasel-identify-itself-as-firefox-using-the-user-agent-switcher-extension/</a><br clear="none">><br clear="none">> Unless there is further input, I will try that add on later this<br clear="none">> evening.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Don't follow that page's well intended but slightly dumb advice.<br clear="none">It's dumb advice because it _needlessly_ advises you to go outside the<br clear="none">regime of maintained packages, which has all sorts of drawbacks<br clear="none">including security ones and should not be done without a very compelling<br clear="none">reason. More about that _general_ matter, here:<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/weatherwax.html#1">http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/weatherwax.html#1</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">> BTW, when I went to a different computer, the bank recognized my<br clear="none">> login, but not my computer. <br clear="none"><br clear="none">Usually reflects lack of the HTTP cookie.<div class="yiv7231235427yqt3147818560" id="yiv7231235427yqtfd61822"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">conspire mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com">conspire@linuxmafia.com</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire">http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire</a><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>