<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:lucida console, sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462423493353_22868"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462423493353_22876">For the record, nomorobo was discussed on Conspire in Sept 2015.</span></div><div><br><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462423493353_22876"></span></div><div><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462423493353_22876">Here is a different scheme. If you suspect that a call is phishy, say that you want to hear more, but that the battery on your cell is almost dead. Ask them to call back and give them the number of your local PD.</span></div><div><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462423493353_22876"></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462423493353_23000" class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div style="display: block;" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462423493353_22910" class="yahoo_quoted"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462423493353_22909" style="font-family: lucida console, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462423493353_22908" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462423493353_22907" dir="ltr"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462423493353_22906" face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> conspire@linuxmafia.com <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 4, 2016 2:57 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [conspire] (forw) [GoLugTech] Terrible customer<br> </font> </div> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1462423493353_22911" class="y_msg_container"><br>Quoting Paul Zander (<a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:paulz@ieee.org" href="mailto:paulz@ieee.org">paulz@ieee.org</a>):<br clear="none"><br clear="none">> Here is a totally different strategy for robocalls, which I learned from Consumer Reports. <br clear="none">> <br clear="none">> Use <a shape="rect" href="https://www.nomorobo.com/" target="_blank">https://www.nomorobo.com/</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">[...]<br clear="none">> It costs nothing.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Except autonomy and privacy.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Forwarding all incoming calls to an outsourced service means that that<br clear="none">service gets all details about who calls your number and when. Your are<br clear="none">also outsourcing the decision about what calls to send back to your<br clear="none">system. I think this is an appalling idea.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">The telco has that information and ability too, of course, but at least<br clear="none">law and regulations constrain what it's allowed to do and whom it's<br clear="none">permitted to give (or sell) your calling information to. An outsourced<br clear="none">third-party private company such as Telephone Science Corporation is<br clear="none">subject to no such protections -- and an outsourced third-party private<br clear="none">company _to whom you pay nothing_ is under even fewer protections than<br clear="none">others, because their contractual obligations to you are reduced.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">This _Wired_ article discusses the founding of Telephone Science<br clear="none">Corporation d/b/a Nomorobo by one Aaron foss in 2013, and its<br clear="none">functioning using cloud computing services from AWS, Twilio, and others<br clear="none">-- but does not bother to ask or answer where Foss's revenue comes from,<br clear="none">which would answer the obvious question of who his customers are.<br clear="none">(Remember, if you're not paying, you're not the customer, but rather the<br clear="none">product.)<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://www.wired.com/2015/01/guy-found-way-block-robocalls-phone-companies-wouldnt/" target="_blank">http://www.wired.com/2015/01/guy-found-way-block-robocalls-phone-companies-wouldnt/</a><br clear="none"><br clear="none">Wake up, people. AWS hosting is expensive. People pay for it because<br clear="none">they expect to make money.<div class="yqt6238732310" id="yqtfd79606"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">conspire mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com" href="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com">conspire@linuxmafia.com</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire</a><br clear="none"></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>