<div dir="ltr"><font size="4"><br>I have spent a lot of time with various virtualbox setups over the past 4 years.<br><br>I suggest you try windows(10 and/or 8) as host and linux as guest.<br><br>Then try it for a month and see if you like it.<br><br>I have learned that windows(10 and/or 8) as host and linux as guest is a horrible experience.<br><br>You should challenge that view and try the setup yourself to see if you will hate it too.<br><br>Now when I need windows, (about once a year to do my corporate taxes), I buy the cheapest windows laptop which can do the job. <br><br>That is usually about $350.<br><br>Then I setup my good/expensive laptops so they boot Linux.<br><br>One setup which works well for me is Linux as host and Linux as guest.<br><br>Then I use my Linux guests to hold data and apps which require lots of work to setup.<br><br>I try to keep my Linux hosts as clear of data and apps as possible.<br><br>I see a Linux host as a thing which runs virtualbox and nothing else.<br><br>As I pack data and complexity into my various Linux guests, I shut them down frequently and back them up to a pair of rotating 8TB usb drives.<br><br>I keep one drive near and the other offsite.<br><br>If I ever lose a drive or a host, I can just buy new ones and restore everything from the offsite usb drive.<br><br>-- Dan<br></font><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 7:13 PM, Leo P <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:yaconsult@gmail.com" target="_blank">yaconsult@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>As the holder of a windows 8 license, you are entitled to a free upgrade to windows 10 which seems much better than windows 8 once the spyware aspects are turned off with SpyBot Anti-Beacon: <a href="https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/" target="_blank">https://www.safer-networking.org/spybot-anti-beacon/</a><br><br></div>My suggestion would be to download the official windows 10 ISO from microsoft at: <a href="https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10" target="_blank">https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows10</a><br></div>I would NOT do an upgrade but would record and store my windows 8 license number as it will be automatically converted to a windows 10 license once you apply it to the fresh install of windows 10 that I suggest you do from the ISO you downloaded.<br></div>I would then decide how much of the disk space I wanted to use for windows and how much for linux and repartition and format the hard drive using gparted running from a usb key or cdrom. Then I would install windows 10 into the partition I created for it, update it, and then install linux. When you install linux it will also install grub and allow you to choose which OS to boot: windows 10 or linux.<br><br></div>That is how I do it. Others, I'm sure, will have different opinions. No need to have the overhead of visualization unless/until it's needed.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br><br></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Leo<br></font></span></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Carl Myers <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cmyers@cmyers.org" target="_blank">cmyers@cmyers.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Virtualbox is available for Linux. If your usage is primarily Linux, you<br>
probably want to install Linux, then Virtualbox, then windows as a guest.<br>
<br>
I am not certain, but I thought there was some rule that you must be provided<br>
windows installation media "upon request" or something? Maybe investigate that<br>
avenue. Failing that, there are other ways to obtain windows (which vary in<br>
degrees of cost / annoyingness / legality).<br>
<br>
-Carl<br>
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On Sun, Mar 06, 2016 at 04:47:51PM +0000, Paul Zander wrote:<br>
> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:47:51 +0000 (UTC)<br>
> From: Paul Zander <<a href="mailto:paulz@ieee.org" target="_blank">paulz@ieee.org</a>><br>
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> So I have a laptop that was factory installed with Win 8.1. No install media came with it.<br>
><br>
> After I get Linux installed, I anticipate that my usage will be 90% Linux and 10% Windows. I have never used VirtualBox, but several people say it is the way to go. I am inclined to give it a try since dual-boot does not happen as part of installing Debian or Mint on this machine.<br>
><br>
> After reading the documentation, it appears that what I need to do is:<br>
> * Install VirtualBox on Windows.<br>
> * Create a new partition for the guest OS.<br>
> * Possibly create another partition for shared data<br>
><br>
> * Launch VirtualBox<br>
><br>
> * From inside VirtualBox install Linux as a virtual machine into the new partition.<br>
><br>
><br>
> After everything is configured, I will always be running Windows and be subject to the annoying unscheduled downtime when Microsoft decides to install an update.<br>
><br>
> Is this the only practical option?<br>
><br>
><br>
> Perhaps I should bring all of the pieces to the next CABAL and do the install there...<br>
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