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I don't need an email address, I have one, and I will have it until
I die. I can give you one also if you want it, for free.<br>
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Frankly, they seem like AMWAY to me. There website sucks and is
largely reflective of what I've seen of them thus far, which is a
dis conjunctive group of technology people with many commercial
interests, often in conflict with each other, and huge egos all
around, which seems to be one of the reasons it doesn't work.<br>
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I asked because i was sort of railroaded in to joining by one
professors at LIU to join and that gets him a nice plaque at the end
of the year to hang in his office.<br>
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As a standards based organization, frankly they suck. They have
repeatedly made "standards" that are essentially corporate bonuses.
They are no doing or funding and real research....<br>
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It seems so much of late as the Moose lodge. Those things can be
good, but I'm a free software person myself and I just don't feel
like being associated with a bunch of patent whores, and corporate
interests... all of them banging on each others chests.<br>
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I'm at a crossroad with them. Right now, I can't even make their
website work correctly and they spam my email box all day and all
night.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 01/31/2015 05:27 PM, Paul Zander
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<div><span>Standards are important. Think about how well USB
works because everything is designed according to a common
set of rules.<br>
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<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family:
times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color:
transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>The history behind
this policy is that a few times a company has been quietly
granted patents. Then the company gets involved in the
writing of a new standard. Only after the standard has been
issued does the company claim that everyone must pay
royalties to meet the new standard. Had the existence of
patents been widely known, the standard making committee
would probably have made different decisions.<br>
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<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family:
times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color:
transparent; font-style: normal;"><span>A few years back,
there was a lot of shouting and several law suits between
Rambus and companies that actually make memory chips.<br>
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style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Don Marti
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dmarti@zgp.org"><dmarti@zgp.org></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Ruben
Safir <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ruben@mrbrklyn.com"><ruben@mrbrklyn.com></a> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com">conspire@linuxmafia.com</a> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Friday, January 30, 2015 10:30 AM<br>
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