<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">It is amazing how clueless the general public is. <br><br>Just a few days ago, NPRadio had a story about a <a href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2012/06/22/155496245/your-new-digital-wallet-in-the-cloud-but-still-tethered-to-fees">"wallet" ap for cell phones</a>. The example was some dude who made a quick trip to the store and arrived at the cashier without his bill-fold or credit cards. But he had his cell phone! The ap was said make it easy to use the phone and PayPal to complete the purchase.<br><br>Ah duh. I wonder how the ap would be of any use if you got stopped for speeding en-route to the store? <br><br>Paul<br><br>--- On <b>Tue, 6/26/12, Rick Moen <i><rick@linuxmafia.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left:
5px;"><br>From: Rick Moen <rick@linuxmafia.com><br>Subject: Re: [conspire] Cellphones and GSM privacy<br>To: conspire@linuxmafia.com<br>Date: Tuesday, June 26, 2012, 9:06 AM<br><br><div class="plainMail">Quoting Nick Moffitt (<a ymailto="mailto:nick@zork.net" href="/mc/compose?to=nick@zork.net">nick@zork.net</a>):<br><br>> Alas, this will do nothing to thwart tower triangulation techniques.<br><br>True. I was aware of that.<br><br>If you don't want your cellular to communicate with towers, you need to<br>stop it from syncing to them, taking you off the grid, which is what is<br>required for full privacy. Or, as you say, use a 'burner' SIM.<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>conspire mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com" href="/mc/compose?to=conspire@linuxmafia.com">conspire@linuxmafia.com</a><br><a href="http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire"
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