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    well, most of the public don't know that the police can dump  the
    content of their phone over blutooth, or that trucks with x-ray
    equipment are driving around scanning for terrorists and
    explosives...<br>
    <br>
    Thank you, Ehud<br>
    On 06/26/2012 09:47 AM, Paul Zander wrote:<br>
    <span style="white-space: pre;">> It is amazing how clueless the
      general public is. <br>
      ><br>
      > Just a few days ago, NPRadio had a story about a "wallet" ap
      for cell phones
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2012/06/22/155496245/your-new-digital-wallet-in-the-cloud-but-still-tethered-to-fees"><http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2012/06/22/155496245/your-new-digital-wallet-in-the-cloud-but-still-tethered-to-fees></a>.
      The example was some dude who made a quick trip to the store and
      arrived at the cashier without his bill-fold or credit cards. But
      he had his cell phone! The ap was said make it easy to use the
      phone and PayPal to complete the purchase.<br>
      ><br>
      > Ah duh. I wonder how the ap would be of any use if you got
      stopped for speeding en-route to the store? <br>
      ><br>
      > Paul<br>
      ><br>
      > --- On *Tue, 6/26/12, Rick Moen
      /<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rick@linuxmafia.com"><rick@linuxmafia.com></a>/* wrote:<br>
      ><br>
      ><br>
      > From: Rick Moen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rick@linuxmafia.com"><rick@linuxmafia.com></a><br>
      > Subject: Re: [conspire] Cellphones and GSM privacy<br>
      > To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com">conspire@linuxmafia.com</a><br>
      > Date: Tuesday, June 26, 2012, 9:06 AM<br>
      ><br>
      > Quoting Nick Moffitt (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nick@zork.net">nick@zork.net</a>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:/mc/compose?to=nick@zork.net"></mc/compose?to=nick@zork.net></a>):<br>
      ><br>
      > > Alas, this will do nothing to thwart tower triangulation
      techniques.<br>
      ><br>
      > True. I was aware of that.<br>
      ><br>
      > If you don't want your cellular to communicate with towers,
      you need to<br>
      > stop it from syncing to them, taking you off the grid, which
      is what is<br>
      > required for full privacy. Or, as you say, use a 'burner'
      SIM.<br>
      ><br>
      ><br>
      > _______________________________________________<br>
      > conspire mailing list<br>
      > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com">conspire@linuxmafia.com</a>
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      ><br>
      ><br>
      ><br>
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      > conspire mailing list<br>
      > <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com">conspire@linuxmafia.com</a><br>
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