<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">thank you for your help during my U S E R R A G E emergancy . <br><br>--- On <b>Fri, 2/25/11, conspire-request@linuxmafia.com <i><conspire-request@linuxmafia.com></i></b> wrote:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>From: conspire-request@linuxmafia.com <conspire-request@linuxmafia.com><br>Subject: conspire Digest, Vol 92, Issue 18<br>To: conspire@linuxmafia.com<br>Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 12:00 PM<br><br><div class="plainMail">Send conspire mailing list submissions to<br> <a ymailto="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com" href="/mc/compose?to=conspire@linuxmafia.com">conspire@linuxmafia.com</a><br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire"
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href="/mc/compose?to=tony@of.net">tony@of.net</a>><br>To: <a ymailto="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com" href="/mc/compose?to=conspire@linuxmafia.com">conspire@linuxmafia.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [conspire] Tony = dizzy<br>Message-ID:<br> <AANLkTimDsARRqa0Km7bkk5Ywj6s=<a ymailto="mailto:jiShJrQXLrCPvWP-@mail.gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jiShJrQXLrCPvWP-@mail.gmail.com">jiShJrQXLrCPvWP-@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br><br>People who change distros this fast and this often make me dizzy... as do<br>your methods of troubleshooting...<br><br>Not sure that equals me actually *equating* to dizzy.<br><br>Best Regards.<br><br><br>On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 21:54, bruce coston <<a ymailto="mailto:jane_ikari@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jane_ikari@yahoo.com">jane_ikari@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> <a href="https://sites.google.com/site/bcoston/"
target="_blank">https://sites.google.com/site/bcoston/</a><br>> contains the updates , In summary : The Pardus corporate 2 = a great live<br>> cd and don't attempt the debian mint . Gotta install ? Stick with lenny<br>> unless other stuff gets a lot better . I'm stuck in the Pardus install for<br>> now and got all my data back . Some people enjoy users less picky than mine<br>> .<br>> ...<br>><br>><br>> 1. Re: Linux Mint Debian now with KDE4.444 (Tony Godshall)<br>> 2. more from attempted kde3 land (bruce coston)<br>><br>><br>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>><br>> Message: 1<br>> Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:28:12 -0800<br>> From: Tony Godshall <<a ymailto="mailto:tony@of.net" href="/mc/compose?to=tony@of.net">tony@of.net</a> <<a href="http://mc/compose?to=tony@of.net"
target="_blank">http://mc/compose?to=tony@of.net</a>>><br>> To: bruce coston <<a ymailto="mailto:jane_ikari@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jane_ikari@yahoo.com">jane_ikari@yahoo.com</a><<a href="http://mc/compose?to=jane_ikari@yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://mc/compose?to=jane_ikari@yahoo.com</a>><br>> ><br>> Cc: <a ymailto="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com" href="/mc/compose?to=conspire@linuxmafia.com">conspire@linuxmafia.com</a> <<a href="http://mc/compose?to=conspire@linuxmafia.com" target="_blank">http://mc/compose?to=conspire@linuxmafia.com</a>><br>> Subject: Re: [conspire] Linux Mint Debian now with KDE4.444<br>> Message-ID:<br>> <AANLkTimTR=xYbd+0fav8+<a ymailto="mailto:_vVpiF-K-CPgyYksyBEPviG@mail.gmail.com" href="/mc/compose?to=_vVpiF-K-CPgyYksyBEPviG@mail.gmail.com">_vVpiF-K-CPgyYksyBEPviG@mail.gmail.com</a><<a
href="http://mc/compose?to=_vVpiF-K-CPgyYksyBEPviG@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">http://mc/compose?to=_vVpiF-K-CPgyYksyBEPviG@mail.gmail.com</a>><br>> ><br>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"<br>><br>> Dude, I'm getting really dizzy.<br>><br>> Best Regards.<br>><br>><br>> On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 19:21, bruce coston <<a ymailto="mailto:jane_ikari@yahoo.com" href="/mc/compose?to=jane_ikari@yahoo.com">jane_ikari@yahoo.com</a><<a href="http://mc/compose?to=jane_ikari@yahoo.com" target="_blank">http://mc/compose?to=jane_ikari@yahoo.com</a>>><br>> wrote:<br>><br>> > #1 , My bad , not actually in their " kde4 " yet . Now that I'm in kde<br>> > 4.444 , I can't move panel to the side no matter what . I'm seriously...<br>><br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> conspire mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com"
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ymailto="mailto:20110225011058.GA4571@linuxmafia.com" href="/mc/compose?to=20110225011058.GA4571@linuxmafia.com">20110225011058.GA4571@linuxmafia.com</a>><br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8<br><br>Quoting Tony Godshall (<a ymailto="mailto:tony@of.net" href="/mc/compose?to=tony@of.net">tony@of.net</a>):<br><br>> People who change distros this fast and this often make me dizzy... as do<br>> your methods of troubleshooting...<br><br>In fairness, apparently Bruce _really_ hates KDE4, his remaining options<br>for maintained KDE3 3.x code are limited, and he's been finding and<br>trying them as opportunity presents.<br><br>Bruce's anecdote about not being able to make Debian work with KDE 3.x<br>packages from the third-party 'trinity' repositories having 'probably a<br>permissions thing' seems more than a bit fishy, and I really don't get<br>this bit about 'switching between the root and sudo models get[ting]<br>messy'.
Those simply _aren't_ conflicting models, for one thing. <br><br>Anyway, it's clear that even though the Pearson Computing 'trinity'<br>effort is primarily focussed on Ubuntu, the Debian prebuilt binary<br>packages _do_ work fine, and have a good track record. Details at the<br>main project site:<br><br><a href="http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/" target="_blank">http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/</a><br><br>Unfortunately, Bruce didn't detail his symptoms, so it's not possible to<br>speculate about root cause of whatever it is he encountered. <br><br>(User tip: Make notes in a paper logbook about all major events and<br>problems on your Linux systems. Among the many advantages is that you<br>won't find yourself attempting to remember and describe a problem you <br>encountered days later, inevitably get details wrong, and annoy the hell<br>out of any online would-be helpers. After many years of wondering why<br>so
many users' problem descriptions are uselessly vague, I realised it's<br>because they didn't take contemporaneous notes, and thus vague guesses<br>were all they could provide.)<br><br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>conspire mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:conspire@linuxmafia.com" href="/mc/compose?to=conspire@linuxmafia.com">conspire@linuxmafia.com</a><br><a href="http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire" target="_blank">http://linuxmafia.com/mailman/listinfo/conspire</a><br><br><br>End of conspire Digest, Vol 92, Issue 18<br>****************************************<br></div></blockquote></td></tr></table><br>