hi <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:42 AM, Edward Cherlin <<a href="mailto:echerlin@gmail.com">echerlin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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</div>I find that the general principle for handling clueless geeks is to<br>
Tell Them. Ahead of time, on-site, <br></blockquote></div><br>Also, maybe getting them to sign up to do dishes at a certain time might be good, too. Rick makes a really good point here. He has hosted CABAL long enough. He shouldn't have to put up with this messiness after all of these years. We should really organize this better. Maybe we could have someone other than Rick take responsibility for organizing periodic (once per hour) sweeps of his house and pick up stuff and someone else wash dishes, so that it is not all left to the end for Rick to do. <br>
<br>If no one wants to help Rick to do the clean up, maybe we should just take up a collection from everyone who comes, and hire someone to do the cleaning for this event. We could just divide the cost of that person's services and divide among the number of people who show up. We could estimate attendance based on people who show up for the prior CABAL meetings, and get collections. We could also have a kitty ahead of time, so that the person's wage is funded before the day of the event, so that Rick is not left holding the bag for that person's expenses. Rick has kept us all together all these years by hosting this event, and IMHO we should chip in, or else Rick will burn out and then we will have lost the benefit of a fun and consistent meeting. <br>