Sounds like a good contribution to xfree.org. Maybe you can look at the code and add that.<br><br><br><br><b><i>Paul Reiber <reiber@gmail.com></i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> > > I was referring to the fact that the xterm would immediately start filling<br>> > up with reams of never-ending garbage.<br>> ><br>><br>> I see that too. But it depends on the application. For instance, I<br>> routinely read mail by invoking "sylpheed &" from an xterm (actually<br>> it's a konsole) and see from time to time error messages on that<br>> konsole. I don't think too much about it.<br><br>This thread is good context for bringing up something which has been<br>bothering me for some time about Gnome and KDE.... hell, about X in<br>general, but especially those two, since the purport to have<br>"improved" things.<br><br>What ever happened to the days
when...<br> 1) error messages were at least minimally pertinent, readable and<br>understandable by end-users, and<br> 2) error messages actually got DELIVERED to the end user, so they<br>knew there was an error?<br><br>I know, it's possible to execute "xterm -hold -e<br>gnome-volume-control", and even to change some launchers so they do<br>that... but that's just playing whack-a-mole with the real problem of<br>stderr/stdout management of X processes.<br><br>Am I alone in being concerned? Every time Firefox dies unexpectedly,<br>and I see there's no stderr log sitting there for me to stare at<br>'cause I've accidentally fired it up from the gnome menu rather than<br>using my custom launcher, I curse whoever decided that window managers<br>should simply discard stdout and stderr rather than intelligently<br>managing them for the end user.<br><br>Thoughts?<br>-pbr<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>conspire mailing
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