[conspire] Discussion: Using LLMs the Right Way: 10/1/2025 7pm Eastern Daylight time

[paulz at ieee.org]

 The state of Oregon recently passed several laws regarding electricity.* One prohibited increases of electric rates during winter months.* Another limited rate increases to no more often than 15 months* Yet another passed strict limitations on construction of data centers consuming large amounts of electricity.
This from a state that used to have abundant electricity from large hydro dams.
    On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 01:45:29 AM PDT, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:  
 

True but not relevant to Deirdre's point.  You knew that, right?
The profligate overuse of drinking water (to name just one squandered
resource) for server farm cooling for, lately, huge LLM installations 
(previously cryptocurrency mining) may not be a problem in climates with
year-round watercourses everywhere (like Dad's native Norway), but it's
already horribly damaging in, say, the American West.

That is a real problem, and saying it somehow doesn't matter being it's
"social and economical" rather than technological misses the point that
-- again, sticking only to water as an example -- humans, crops, etc. 
being edged out for fresh water is a big issue.

Now, you could say that my country ought to have better protections of
key resources against depredation via greater buying power, and I would
agree.  But the point remains, that the immediate effects are
pernicious, which I believe was Deirdre's point.

  
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