[conspire] Discussion: Using LLMs the Right Way: 10/1/2025 7pm Eastern Daylight time

[Ivan Sergio Borgonovo]

On 10/3/25 6:09 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Ivan Sergio Borgonovo (mail at webthatworks.it):
>> On 10/2/25 10:44 AM, Rick Moen wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think that makes any sense.  The failure Deirdre described had
>>>> very little to do with the particular SCM's semantics or data model.
>>
>> really?

> I'm certainly not an expert, but have been using SCMs nearly as long as

Sorry you missed the point. Not here to repeat it.

>> So you're saying that I'm responsible for resource waste because I
>> asked a LLM to show me a template on how to drive a PWM?
>> I bet I'm also responsible for microplastics because I didn't spend
>> enough time to deconstruct a fucking package made of 5 different
>> materials glued together.
> 
> You know, I saw your response during the night, and decided to delay any
> comment because I didn't want to sound irritable.  So, I put it off, and

really?

> re-read what you said a few times, and yet the awkward fact remains:
> Your comment was completely non-responsive to what I said.
> 
> Nothing I wrote was in any way critical of, or addressed explicitly or
> implicitly, ro the social responsibilites of one Ivan Sergio Borgonovo,
> honoured mailing list participant in Italy.   The actual _purport_ of my
> comment is reasonably clear from its wording, I think.

But this follow as a consequence of thinking that the problem is not 
social and economic but technological.
Technology is wrong and doesn't work, you don't use it individually.
You get your competitive advantage in avoiding to use a technology that 
simply doesn't work. Could be Windows... could be LLM. Problem solved.

If your understanding of the Windows problem is as deep as your 
understanding of SCM involvement in how LLM works I bet I'm ready for a 
ban considering the peroration:

> Having said that, I suspect my only graceful way forward, in this
> subthread, is to just ask to please not continue, and express regret
> that this did not work out better.


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Ivan Sergio Borgonovo
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