[conspire] Stolen election narratives, CA edition
Rick Moen
rick at linuxmafia.com
Sun Sep 26 11:34:31 PDT 2021
Quoting Ivan Sergio Borgonovo (mail at webthatworks.it):
{Italia:]
> Cameras are forbidden at the voting booth.
I just wanted to circle back to that point, and post a link showing the
two types of voting booths common in the USA, to the best of my
understanding. (The USA is large and diverse enough that generalising
from one's own local experiences can be problematic.)
https://abc13.com/voting-selfies-west-virginia-election-2016/1319433/
That's from the state of West Virginia, and the article's all about
the banning of "selfies" and other photography in that state's voting
booths. The article doesn't cite WV's particular _reasons_ for that
ban; one can imagine multiple possibilities, not limited to making
forced voting and bought voting more difficult.
Have a look at the photo. In foreground are white semi-open standing
booths. In background are private areas for voting behind a drawn
curtain. (It's also obvious this is stock photography, as the white
booths make clear it was taken in New Hampshire; thus the "NH".)
My point is that, relative to banning of photography, there's a certain
conundrum: The greater the privacy one allows to the citizen voting at
a public voting precinct, the less feasible it would be to enforce a ban
on photography, or even to detect use of a camera at all.
[West Virginia Secretary of State Natalie E. Tennant] says signs are
posted in every West Virginia precinct, and poll workers have been
instructed to tell people not to have devices out while voting.
So, by implication, in WV, there's no effort to ban or prevent bringing
cameras or other personal electronics into a voting booth, but WV
_purports_ to ban using anything there to take a photo -- raising the
awkward question: How would they necessarily even know, particularly
if you're behind a privacy curtain?
So, we seem to arrive at a very awkward if not absurd result: that
in order to protect ballot secrecy, we must be able to watch voters'
actions in real time closely, while they are within the voting booth,
to verify that they don't use cameras, and thus we must _prevent_
voters having ballot secrecy (by surveilling them).
Or, to sidestep that conundrum, TSA-type screening to prevent people
bringing photography-capable gear into the voting area -- or naked
voting?
Out of curiosity, how does Italy strike a balance in that area? Ban
use of cameras in the voting booth in theory but without meaningful
enforcement of the ban?
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