[conspire] Let's look at fluview

Tony Godshall tony at of.net
Fri May 8 10:40:19 PDT 2020


Letting Swedes comment on Sweden's lack of lockdown:
https://www.newsweek.com/sweden-coronavirus-deaths-children-lockdown-1502548



On Fri, May 1, 2020, 12:16 Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:

> Quoting Paul Zander (paulz at ieee.org):
>
> > I found the following link from POTUS about Sweden.  My outspoken
> > associate hasn't had a reply.  Trump says Sweden is paying heavily for
> > not having a lockdown.
> > https://www.newsweek.com/sweden-coronavirus-rate-1501250
>
> I hope people have learned to simply disregard what the Toddler says on
> (at minimum) this entire topic.  Despite having top analysts briefing
> him on all aspects of this threat since November 2019 in the
> Presidential Daily Briefings and otherwise, he's for whatever reason
> just been a force for chaos alternating with obliviousness, and the wise
> policy is, as Maddow advises, to disregard what the mouth says keep an
> eye out, instead, for (rare, often deliberately quiet) Executive Branch
> actions.
>
> Concerning Sweden itself, as I implied the last time the subject arose
> on Conspire, it'd be poor form for a Norwegian-American to mouth off
> about Sweden, so I'm slow to do so.  (The two neighbouring countries
> still have some soreheadedness left over from their acrimonious
> 1814-1905 shotgun marriage.)
>
> I remember, some weeks ago, that Sweden's overall policy was to avoid
> mandated shutdowns and simply state that they trusted Swedes to be
> responsible and mitigate risks on their own.  That sounded
> overconfident, but I didn't want to dwell on that, and in the end the
> pessimists seem to have been right, if one can trust the figures for
> Sweden versus its neighbours.
>
> I wouldn't say more without some informed analysis from Swedish friends,
> if only because the miasma of misinformation and disinformation (e.g.,
> deliberate forgeries circulated for partisan reasons) is becoming as
> thick as pea-soup fog (on coronavirus matters), and I'm distrusting and
> disregarding anything not fully sourced and fact-checked.
>
> And in particular, I'm assuming at least an 80% bullshit percentage on
> _anything_ lobbed around by Internet forwarding -- absent careful
> checking.
>
>
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