[conspire] (forw) Not quite getting it

[Texx]

Remember, loyalty is more important to this administration than competency.
I watched the Cretin In Chief blather bullshit.
I watched Fauci correct the record.
Then the Cretin try tio over ride Fauci and then Fauci try to correct the
Cretin again.
I lost track after that.
I LOVED the face palm Fauci did and now that its hit the news, the Cretin
knows about it.
Usually, a facepalm in public can get you fired in this administration.

My guess (underline guess) is that somehow the Cretin knows that if he
fires Fauci, nobody in the US will listen to the Whitehouse again.

I noted with laughter that Costco is REFUSING to accept returns of TP or
paper towels!
Serves those doomsdayers right!

Some of my previous math came from Johns Hopkins, by the way.

I stand by my estimate that if CA can stay below 45k cases at any given
time, we should be able to avoid mellting down the health system
I base this on the stated need to hold to 20% of the CA pop at a time.

Despite the tragedy in this whole thing, there are occaisional chances to
snicker.

I dont have the URL for the table with how long this thing lasts on various
surfaces, but if you find it, its a beaut.

Regarding the glove thing,
YOU know how to avoid touching things they shouldnt, but can you honestly
say that the guy with a flatbed truck full of toilet paper knows this?

Im trying to wash my hands more often than usual and Im using a sink
sprayer and a squirt bottle of soap to wash my face a half dozen times a
day.
Im trying not to touch my face, but I dont know many people who can
actually avoid touching their face.
Im washing more often because I KNOW Im not perfect on the "No touchie"
thing.

Regarding the runny nose thing, I said it was RARELY a symptom.

Moving in a slightly different direction, I notice a few things that are
happening.
Right now the idea of companies spending money to buy back stock rather
than save for a rainy day is now a public thing and companies are going to
get absolute hell for it if they either get a bailout of lay off a bunch of
people.

I also notice that the last 10 yrs has loosened the grip of the CCP on the
people.

20 years ago, complaining about the river you village drank from being
polluted could get you sent to prison.
Similarly, complaining about the air pollution.
The CCP appears to be sending fewer people to prison for complaining abourt
pollution.
Owning a car no longer marks you as being "decadent".
Contamination of food & medicine got bad enough they had to throw the chief
of their FDA under the bus and execute him.
My brother in law works in intermodal shipping (Think container ports) is
noting people in China saying things they wopuld not have dared to say 10
years ago.

(Ricks time in that part of the world would be interesting here)

Now the country realizes that the man who wanted to warn people got
arrested and has now died of the virus he was trying to save people from.
Im wondering if the CCP is going to hold on to power for more than another
generation.

This one is going to be fascinating to watch.


On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 12:09 PM Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:

> Quoting Texx (texxgadget at gmail.com):
>
> > Some of what you said, I will have to debate in private because I dont
> > want to start a flame war here.  There is a lot of stuff that is
> > branded as "junk science" because it doesnt come out of big pharma and
> > I will debate you in private on those points.
> >
> > Cloroquin, I agree with you on and am very dubious about it.
> > Poisonings noted.
>
> It's always worthwhile considering a-priori unlikely possibilities.
> (Colloidal silver, on the other hand, we can point and laugh at the
> proponents.)
>
> > Im dubious of getting all my info from one source (You have preached
> > that)
>
> Certainly.  However, in this case, the competent data mainly comes from
> the WHO, CDC, and from teams of medical researchers relying on data from
> them (and to a limited degree on independent, competent lab data).  Who
> _are_ the authorities on the subject, because nobody else has had time
> to develop deep knowledge at all.
>
> The Imperial College London report merely traced out the obvious
> math-based implications (exponential growth) of the data model derived
> from China and South Korea's experience.  As someone with a math degree,
> I can vouch for the mathematical basis of the working group's report
> being completely sound, and (speaking as a long-time student of
> science-based medicine) I found its extrapolation of the three policy
> options and their results convincing -- and so have many other informed
> commenters.
>
> > There is this chicken vs the egg thing.
> > Lots will die to be sure.
> > When the economy tanks, even more will die even if they dont get sick.
>
> One problem at a time, then.  Let's avoid megadeaths for the next few
> months as the first step.  (I think California may manage this.  Much
> of the rest of the United States, I fear may be heading towards
> tragedy.)
>
> While we are not dying, we can perhaps figure out newer and
> life-preserving ways of working.
>
> One of the strengths of the United States is that its culture has always
> (at least in the past) been resilient and adaptable -- partly
> compensating for its weakness of tending to sit around and waste time
> until rather late in a crisis.
>
>
> > On a lighter note, there is recent quote from Anthony Fauci about not
> being
> > able to throw Trump to the ground when he mis speaks.
> > I notice that hes the only one in the government who can contradict the
> > president without getting fired.
>
> I would speculate that there are four reasons why Dr. Fauci keeps his
> job.
>
> (1) Unlike, say, John F. Kelly and H.R. McMaster, Dr. Fauci is always
> diplomatic in never _directly_ contradicting the Toddler-in-Chief, and
> avoiding direct conflict.  Instead, Fauci just calmly explains known
> fact, and the Toddler doesn't perceive challenge to his authority (and
> also probably doesn't follow 80% of what Fauci says).
>
> (2) Unlike those two now-fired advisors, he's in a specialised field
> divorced from West Wing backstabbing.  None of the factions and vicious
> political hacks have it in for him.
>
> (3) He's the most famously qualified person for the job in the entire
> country, and 79 years old, which means he's in a position to just laugh
> at the notion of heading off into comfortable retirement just because
> the Toddler threw a tantrum and dismissed him as Director of NIAID.
> (I mean, for gosh sakes, he's held that post since appointment under
> Ronald Reagan in 1984.  He's practically a national monument in
> himself.)
>
> (4) Because his qualifications are unique, the Toddler knows he's merely
> blast a hole in his own foot if he were to fire Fauci.
>
>
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