[conspire] (forw) You're quoted. :)

Rick Moen rick at linuxmafia.com
Mon Mar 26 15:15:02 PDT 2018


Am flattered.

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2018 07:36:05 -0700
From: Destinyland <destinyland at gmail.com>
To: rick at linuxmafia.com
Subject: You're quoted. :)

So the piece is up.  Amazingly, Linus Torvalds answered the email I sent
asking for a quote, so you and he are quoted side by side. :)


https://thenewstack.io/linus-torvalds-remembers-the-days-before-open-source/

It's really appropriate.  Your comments were knowledgeable and passionate,
and I really appreciate your getting involved in this discussion.

What's disturbing is there's one guy -- a former database manager for a
casino up by Clear Lake <http://hyperlogos.org/page/Resum-Martin-Espinoza>
-- who's apparently really proud that he heard Caldera say "open source
code model" before 1998.  He reached out to the author of that press
release who tells him Caldera (and Linus) used the term "broadly"
<http://hyperlogos.org/blog/drink/term-Open-Source> -- by which he seems to
mean "in a much more broad way than it's used today," but which sounds like
he's saying they used it *often*.  [Even Linus, for example, took "broadly"
to mean that he was being remembered as having used the term "widely."]

And that publicist's tenure at Caldera extended to 2001 -- so I'm sure he
did eventually attend the Open Source pavilions at Comdex.  But I'm not
sure he understands the difference between what Caldera did and what true
Open Source code looks like -- even to this day.  (He's currently the
pointy-haired boss at a web applications company
<https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyleball/>.)  It's possible that without any
malice on his part, he's nonetheless conflating that 1996 press release
with the larger open source movement.   And then that former casino
database manager is thrilled to have his conspiracy theory validated....

I tried leaving a comment for the casino database manager, but his blog's
captcha system is broken. So I sent a friendly email to the address on his
resume.  (And someday someone really out to reach out to that Caldera
publicist and have a friendly discussion congratulating him on his role in
the post-1998 push for true open source software -- building up his pride
in that -- while also getting him to laugh at just how far away that was
from the "source viewable" stuff Caldera was doing in 1996.)

All this to say that there's some serious confusion out there, and it's
really good you were here to throw credible and authoritiative words into
the mix to start cutting through it all.   ;)

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