[conspire] (forw) Re: VirtualBox

[Rick Moen]

Part of the clarification Paul alludes to might be my clarification that
my phrase 'P2V tool' (on this mailing list in early March) was an
intended reference to VMware vCenter Converter.  See:
http://lists.svlug.org/archives/svlug/2016-April/061811.html

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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2016 17:08:28 +0000 (UTC)
From: Paul Zander <paulz at ieee.org>
To: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
Subject: Re: [conspire] VirtualBox
Reply-To: Paul Zander <paulz at ieee.org>

After the clarification in the SVLUG meeting, I think it's time to move
forward.  I do have the tools to reparation the disk.  Currently C: is
250M of which only 50 is used.  So I could shrink it down a lot more,
and even 100 Meg external drive would be more than adequate for the
"experiment".  Now a technical question regarding the external drive. 
Is there a significant difference between "flash" and "SSD"?  Both are
solid state.  There are "flash drives" in sizes up to at least 1T, and
SSD as small as 128M.  

Paul

      From: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
 To: conspire at linuxmafia.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2016 12:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [conspire] VirtualBox
   
Quoting Paul Zander (paulz at ieee.org):

> >Grey-market product, you see. 
> 
> If the install media is not routinely supplied with computers,
> there won't be disks for the grey-market. 
> 
> Good for MicroSoft, not so good for the rest of us.

I'm not sure you're saying (but see footnote at bottom about grogginess)
grey-market installation media are good or bad -- but FWIW I really
wasn't saying it was one or the other.  They're a market reality, and
all I was saying about them is that they are a questionable substitute
for real retail copies.

And what I alleged about bundled OSes -- the stance I've maintained for
many decades -- is that if you lack the means to reinstall your OS, you 
don't properly own it.  And, IMO, that is a big problem.  Therefore, I
recommend that if you intend to rely on a bundled OS, you need to
acquire good general-purpose installation media (and whatever activation
codes or whatnot in fashion this decade) one way or the other.  Some
people feel that _some_ grey-market copies of MS-Windows have qualified
as good general-purpose installation media.  Some edition on grey-market
media have infamously proven to be _not_ general-purpose.  (And
'recovery' CDs suck to the degree that they're only just better than
losing everything.)

[RM: Snip rest, as it's also available at the lists.svlug.org URL above.]

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