[conspire] request recommendation for webcam for Mac G4 PPC - Mac OS 10.4.11

Ross Bernheim rossbernheim at speakeasy.net
Wed Jun 8 07:18:54 PDT 2011

Hello Darlene,

I have a dual G5 and am moving to a newer Mac for the reasons Rick has stated. In addition
all the newer versions of many programs no longer support the P{PC chips.

Video chatting on the Mac has always been linked to either Apple's camera or built-in camera on 
laptops. Using other cameras was at best iffy without 3'rd party software to make it work. Think 

Linux would be a better alternative than an outdated OS that is no longer supported or maintained
with security updates.

There are a number of video editing programs for Linux. I used to use Kino a few years ago. It was at 
the time quite capable and at least as competent as iMovie though the interface was a bit less polished
at the time. It did have a bunch of options that iMovie didn't as it was meant to cover a broader range of
possibilities than iMovie. I understand Kino has been updated and much improved since I last used it.


On Jun 8, 2011, at 3:15 AM, Darlene Wallach wrote:

> Rick,
> This is Darlene.
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 3:00 AM, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
>> Quoting Darlene Wallach (freepalestin at dslextreme.com):
>> [Upgrade to Leopard]
>>> Thank you - I'm cc'ing Donna so she knows about this option.
>> You're welcome -- but I mentioned it mostly to point out the absurdity
>> of forking out $50-130 to get an obsolete, unmaintained, dangerously
>> buggy upgrade of an EOL'ed operating system platform.
>> Me, I'd put Linux on it.  Typical MacOS faithful would rather die first
>> rather than use something unfamiliar that's not been blessed by the
>> Church of Steve, of course.  I don't want to sound too critical:  They
>> typically _really_ like to stick with what they know, don't wish to
>> learn about their systems, and low tolerance for getting their hands
>> dirty, and who am I to judge?
>> Unfortunately, fact is that it's simply a long-EOLed operating system on
>> PowerPC machines, and your sister is going to be forever stuck at either
>> 2007 or (with expenditure of a bunch of money) 2009 unless she either
>> moves to an open-source OS or gets a newer computer (which is even more
>> money).
> Yup, and I'm assuming that is not going to change with Apple - their
> computers, their chips, their OS.
> I don't know what to recommend for video editing on GNU/Linux - I
> don't know if Kdenlive has the features she needs for editing.
> Darlene Wallach
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