[conspire] Browser 'Wars'

[Ruben Safir]

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 06:55:41PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Micah Lee (twopointfour at riseup.net):
> 
> > I think we probably agree on quite a few things. 
> 
> Yeah, sorry.  It's not fair for me to vent annoyance over Web abuses at
> someone merely because he identifies himself as a Web developer, even if
> he does fail to capitalise proper nouns.  ;->
> 
> > Regardless, most applications getting developed now and in the future
> > will be run in a web browser and hosted on remote servers....
> 
> I've spent many, many decades not giving a tinker's damn about 'most
> users', 'most applications', etc.  Because Sturgeon's Law applies in
> spades.
> 
> I _may_ decide to implement the Web re-interation of the 1990s 'network
> computer' idea, except using my own damned back-end services rather than 
> Google, Inc.'s, Zimbra's, or any other third-party SaaS crap.  As I
> pointed out to Don Marti, I already basically use whatever computer's in
> front of me almost entirely for ssh access to my server, and do all my
> substantive computing _on_ my server.  However, I've just been extremely
> unimpressed by Web-mediated applications in general and have thus far 
> dismissed them out of hand.
> 
> I'm in a position to not give a damn how much money is spent on moving
> everything to cloud-based hosted applications and how much Web 2.0 fairy
> dust is sprinkled over it.  Debian continues to work great, and I am
> fully equipped to ignore the bullshit.
> 


I think you just essentially hit the nail on the head.  The real problem
with the "broswer wars" is, who gives a damn.  I couldn't care less.

> 
> > ...and that's what's pushing the demand for modern web browsers, and
> > also what's pushing the demand for privacy and security features and
> > add-ons (like the new DNT http header in Firefox 4).
> 
> Oh, Jesus, you _are_ delusional.
> 
> I briefly considered lavishing an entire slide on how lame, stupid, and
> useless Mozilla Corporation's 'do not track header' is, but figured that
> was obvious and also largely redundant to other material in my SVLUG
> talk.
> 
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