[conspire] Generic Linux?
Ehud Kaldor
ehud.kaldor at gmail.com
Fri Jun 11 16:57:39 PDT 2010
Really? I had no idea Debian can run with other kernels. Which ones?
On 6/11/10, Tony Godshall <tony at of.net> wrote:
> 4c worth of observations:
>
> 1. A lot of the issue is the term "operating system" which has grown
> to encompass even the user interface.
>
> 2. Linux-based operating system distributions have been called just
> that, rather than operating systems, presumably following the lead of
> BSD.
>
> 3. Debian, interestingly, calls itself as "the universal operating
> system" and is available with kernels other than Linux.
>
> 4. Some have proposed calling Linux-based OSs with lots of GNU stuff
> GNU/Linux but this gets awkward. Debian does this. See...
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU/Linux_naming_controversy
>
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:49, Ehud Kaldor <ehud.kaldor at gmail.com> wrote:
>> However, I must agree 'Linux' is a generic term representing many
>> brands, such as Ubuntu, Fedora, Slackware and many more. In that
>> sense, it is as generic as Windows, which represents Windows NT, 95, 7
>> and all. There is no OS called The Linux, and Fedora is A Linux, and
>> not a derivative or offshoot of Linux. My 3 cents.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6/11/10, roger at rogerchrisman.com <roger at rogerchrisman.com> wrote:
>>> Oh dear, now I've done it. I deleted "is a generic term that" from the
>>> Wikipedia "Linux" article. I think the article is better this way so
>>> that people like Mike Cassidy, who may not know what an operating
>>> system kernel is, don't start calling BSD generically linux or some
>>> other weirdness.
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
>>>
>>> Hachoo!!
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com> wrote:
>>>> Quoting Roger Chrisman (roger at rogerchrisman.com):
>>>>
>>>>> Is Linux generic?
>>>>
>>>> In a journalistic sense of meaning 'kernel and (by extension) system
>>>> framework underlying many and diverse distributions', not the trademark
>>>> legal sense.
>>>>
>>>> The 'Linux' brand within the area of computing is trademarked by Linus
>>>> Torvalds and administered by the Linux Mark Institute.
>>>>
>>>> (Once or twice in the last couple'a decades, some other twinke, such as
>>>> one Mr. della Croche of Boston, attempted to assert trademark over the
>>>> name Linux and related trade dress in order to shake down the Linux
>>>> community for money, so Linus finally took out a formal Federal
>>>> registered trademark, $330 every 10 years, to make sure they couldn't
>>>> try that, any more.)
>>>>
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