[conspire] conspire Digest, Vol 85, Issue 4
kw6 at xmission.com
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Fri Jul 23 20:36:32 PDT 2010
I can't get there this weekend, but I will try for the 13th.
I got a new laptop, purged Vista and loaded Suse 11.3. Runs fine --
unfortunately, I dunno what you guys did for me last year to make my
Pantech UM-175 work on my (now deceased) desktop machine, but I need
to do it to the laptop. I also need to know how to make it play DVDs,
.flvs, etc.
Any advice would help, failing that, I will probably make the trip
from Reno in August.
Keith
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> 1. CABAL this Saturday (Rick Moen)
> 2. Re: CABAL this Saturday (Ruben Safir)
> 3. Re: CABAL this Saturday (Rick Moen)
> 4. Re: CABAL this Saturday (Darlene Wallach)
> 5. Re: CABAL this Saturday (Ruben Safir)
> 6. Re: CABAL this Saturday (Ruben Safir)
> 7. Re: CABAL this Saturday (Rick Moen)
> 8. Re: CABAL this Saturday (Rick Moen)
> 9. Re: CABAL this Saturday (Rick Moen)
> 10. DVI to VGA (was Re: CABAL this Saturday) (Ross Bernheim)
> 11. Re: DVI to VGA (was Re: CABAL this Saturday) (Rick Moen)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:29:58 -0700
> From: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> Subject: [conspire] CABAL this Saturday
> To: conspire at linuxmafia.com
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> We're doing the usual tomorrow starting at 4 PM. Not sure what exactly
> I'll be preparing as food for the masses, but I'll be going to the Palo
> Alto Farmer's Market in the AM, for starters.
>
> Running from 10 AM to 4 PM is a rather extraordinary annual event, now
> in its fourth year, which my family will be attending prior to CABAL:
> The Edible Landscaping Tour. It's a public tour of particularly
> impressive organic vegetable/fruit gardens in the Palo Alto / Mountain
> View / Los Altos area: You get a map and set of handouts about the
> featured gardens, and then can visit them at your leisure from 10 to 4.
> Last year's tour included the backyard gardens of local restauranteur
> Jesse Cool (Flea Street Cafe, Jesse's CoolEatz, etc.) and Sun's Scott
> McNealy. Highly recommended. Interest parties can join the tour
> starting 9:45 AM tomorrow at Common Ground Palo Alto.
>
> http://www.commongroundinpaloalto.org/ediblelandscapingtour.htm
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:39:19 -0400
> From: Ruben Safir <ruben at mrbrklyn.com>
> Subject: Re: [conspire] CABAL this Saturday
> To: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> Cc: conspire at linuxmafia.com
> Message-ID: <20100723213919.GA25377 at www2.mrbrklyn.com>
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> Are you folks doing anything on the weekend of Aug 13th?
>
> Ruben
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 02:29:58PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
>> We're doing the usual tomorrow starting at 4 PM. Not sure what exactly
>> I'll be preparing as food for the masses, but I'll be going to the Palo
>> Alto Farmer's Market in the AM, for starters.
>>
>> Running from 10 AM to 4 PM is a rather extraordinary annual event, now
>> in its fourth year, which my family will be attending prior to CABAL:
>> The Edible Landscaping Tour. It's a public tour of particularly
>> impressive organic vegetable/fruit gardens in the Palo Alto / Mountain
>> View / Los Altos area: You get a map and set of handouts about the
>> featured gardens, and then can visit them at your leisure from 10 to 4.
>> Last year's tour included the backyard gardens of local restauranteur
>> Jesse Cool (Flea Street Cafe, Jesse's CoolEatz, etc.) and Sun's Scott
>> McNealy. Highly recommended. Interest parties can join the tour
>> starting 9:45 AM tomorrow at Common Ground Palo Alto.
>>
>> http://www.commongroundinpaloalto.org/ediblelandscapingtour.htm
>>
>>
>>
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> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn,
> like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the
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> http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS -
> RI Safir 2002
>
> "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
>
> "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming
> sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to
> participate in our own society."
>
> "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
> You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology
> have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient
> Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
>
> ? Copyright for the Digital Millennium
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:59:45 -0700
> From: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> Subject: Re: [conspire] CABAL this Saturday
> To: conspire at linuxmafia.com
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> Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben at mrbrklyn.com):
>
>> Are you folks doing anything on the weekend of Aug 13th?
>
> Well, that Saturday (Aug. 14th) will be likewise a CABAL day.
>
> Otherwise, I'll likely be just celebrating my good health and relative
> good fortune, as it'll then be almost the first anniversary of that
> being restored to me.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:04:19 -0700
> From: Darlene Wallach <freepalestin at dslextreme.com>
> Subject: Re: [conspire] CABAL this Saturday
> To: conspire at linuxmafia.com
> Cc: Donna Wallach <dbwall at earthlink.net>
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> A while ago, Lisa very generously offered what was once a top of the
> line laptop, Sony Vaio notebook computer, and I was the lucky person
> to obtain it to give to my sister who didn't have a laptop.
>
> Unfortunately I tried to use the laptop as the monitor for my sisters'
> computer when it looked like the monitor wasn't working. Since then
> the screen on the laptop doesn't work.
>
> Would someone be able/willing to help troubleshoot if I bring it to
> CABAL on Saturday?
>
> Thank you
>
> Darlene Wallach
> --
> equal justice under law
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:05:54 -0400
> From: Ruben Safir <ruben at mrbrklyn.com>
> Subject: Re: [conspire] CABAL this Saturday
> To: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> Cc: conspire at linuxmafia.com
> Message-ID: <20100723220554.GA25812 at www2.mrbrklyn.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 02:59:45PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
>> Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben at mrbrklyn.com):
>>
>> > Are you folks doing anything on the weekend of Aug 13th?
>>
>> Well, that Saturday (Aug. 14th) will be likewise a CABAL day.
>>
>> Otherwise, I'll likely be just celebrating my good health and relative
>> good fortune, as it'll then be almost the first anniversary of that
>> being restored to me.
>>
>
>
> Well that is GOOD news...the secular kind, although I think my prayers
> were more responsible for your good health than anything else :)
>
> I'll be in town with my daughter taking CE creds that weekend from
> Friday until Monday, so if you or your wife need anything from the
> rightcoast, I can bring it in (maybe a Cornbeef sandwitch ? or Matzah)
>
> Ruben
>
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> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
>
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn,
> like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the
> world - RI Safir 1998
>
> http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS -
> RI Safir 2002
>
> "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
>
> "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming
> sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to
> participate in our own society."
>
> "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
> You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology
> have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient
> Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
>
> ? Copyright for the Digital Millennium
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 18:07:48 -0400
> From: Ruben Safir <ruben at mrbrklyn.com>
> Subject: Re: [conspire] CABAL this Saturday
> To: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> Cc: conspire at linuxmafia.com
> Message-ID: <20100723220748.GA25943 at www2.mrbrklyn.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> BTW - has anyone seen those fit/pc's?
>
> Ruben
> --
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
>
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn,
> like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the
> world - RI Safir 1998
>
> http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS -
> RI Safir 2002
>
> "Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
>
> "The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming
> sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to
> participate in our own society."
>
> "> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
> You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology
> have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient
> Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
>
> ? Copyright for the Digital Millennium
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:12:16 -0700
> From: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> Subject: Re: [conspire] CABAL this Saturday
> To: conspire at linuxmafia.com
> Message-ID: <20100723221216.GE22299 at linuxmafia.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Quoting Darlene Wallach (freepalestin at dslextreme.com):
>
>> Unfortunately I tried to use the laptop as the monitor for my sisters'
>> computer when it looked like the monitor wasn't working. Since then
>> the screen on the laptop doesn't work.
>>
>> Would someone be able/willing to help troubleshoot if I bring it to
>> CABAL on Saturday?
>
> You're always welcome to bring computers with hardware problems to our
> gatherings, but it's anyone's guess whether someone will will be present
> who can help you solve such problems. So, you can certainly give it a
> try, but no promises.
>
> I'm always really impressed at people who can solve problems with
> laptops' monitors just not working at all, because that's past my
> own level of hardware competence. Many a laptop has, in my own
> experience, reached the end of the road because its LCD screen died or
> cracked.
>
> If that ends up being the case, you _could_ look in the usual places
> (eBay, Craigslist, Halted) for a replacement screen as a used-parts
> purchase. Of course, before doing so, you should at the bare minimum
> cross-check the VAIO with an external monitor (such as the ones I have)
> to make sure the problem's not something wrong elsewhere in the machine.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:50:31 -0700
> From: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> Subject: Re: [conspire] CABAL this Saturday
> To: conspire at linuxmafia.com
> Message-ID: <20100723225031.GC17041 at linuxmafia.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben at mrbrklyn.com):
>
>> BTW - has anyone seen those fit/pc's?
>
> Haven't yet seen one, but I'm actively considering a CompuLab fit-PC 2i
> as one of several candidate replacements for my 2001-era VA Linux
> Systems model 2230 server. The winning feature of the model 2i is
> ability to run 2 GB system RAM. (Video output is DVI, which I suppose a
> shouldn't complain about, given another decade has passed since I've
> bought a monitor, but I do wish they'd included VGA for us laggards.)
>
> The video chipset (Intel GMA500) is a bit unfortunate, as there's not
> yet open-source X11 support, but that'd be OK for my server.
>
> All the other Intel Atom- / AMD Geode- or MIPS Longsoon-based "nettops"
> seem to top out at significantly lower amounts of RAM.
>
> (Well, hang on, several ASUS Eee "Box" nettop models, likewise
> Atom-based, seem to also now support 2 GB RAM: B202, B203, B204.
> Also, the EB1012, EB1501, and EB1501U top out at 4 GB. And the
> latter set even have VGA in addition to HDMI video out.)
>
>
> What first got me thinking about that sort of replacement were the
> introduction of "Plug computers" based on Marvell-issued ARM-family
> CPUs, but those seem to take a lot of tinkering and also top out at 512
> MB RAM.
>
> Anyhow, any of those machines with, say, a pair of 2 TB external
> USB2-connected hard drives in MD-driver RAID1 mirror mode would cut my
> AC power usage quite a bit -- and get me away from tinkering around with
> 18 GB 3.5" SCSI drives and such.
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:55:06 -0700
> From: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> Subject: Re: [conspire] CABAL this Saturday
> To: conspire at linuxmafia.com
> Message-ID: <20100723225506.GD17041 at linuxmafia.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben at mrbrklyn.com):
>
>> Well that is GOOD news...the secular kind, although I think my prayers
>> were more responsible for your good health than anything else :)
>
> Well, thank you for that, though you might not blame me for reserving
> major gratitude to Kaiser Foundation Medical Center.
>
>> I'll be in town with my daughter taking CE creds that weekend from
>> Friday until Monday, so if you or your wife need anything from the
>> rightcoast, I can bring it in (maybe a Cornbeef sandwitch ? or Matzah)
>
> Appreciate the offer. Pastrami sandwiches from The City That Knows How
> to Do Sandwiches are always gratefully received, if you're offering. ;->
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:04:19 -0700
> From: Ross Bernheim <rossbernheim at speakeasy.net>
> Subject: [conspire] DVI to VGA (was Re: CABAL this Saturday)
> To: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> Cc: Conspire List <conspire at linuxmafia.com>
> Message-ID: <C06374B5-B1E0-4221-9D54-68AA3D943F6C at speakeasy.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>
>
> On Jul 23, 02010, at 3:50 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
>
>> Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben at mrbrklyn.com):
>>
>>> BTW - has anyone seen those fit/pc's?
>>
>> Haven't yet seen one, but I'm actively considering a CompuLab fit-PC
>> 2i
>> as one of several candidate replacements for my 2001-era VA Linux
>> Systems model 2230 server. The winning feature of the model 2i is
>> ability to run 2 GB system RAM. (Video output is DVI, which I
>> suppose a
>> shouldn't complain about, given another decade has passed since I've
>> bought a monitor, but I do wish they'd included VGA for us laggards.)
>
>
> Rick,
>
> Two solutions from quick search.
>
> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10114&cs_id=1011402&p_id=4559&seq=1&format=2
>
> http://store.apple.com/us/product/M8754G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
>
>
> I have the latter if you want to borrow to test.
>
>
>
> Ross
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:14:11 -0700
> From: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
> Subject: Re: [conspire] DVI to VGA (was Re: CABAL this Saturday)
> To: conspire at linuxmafia.com
> Message-ID: <20100724021411.GJ22299 at linuxmafia.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Quoting Ross Bernheim (rossbernheim at speakeasy.net):
>
>> Two solutions from quick search.
>>
>> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10114&cs_id=1011402&p_id=4559&seq=1&format=2
>>
>> http://store.apple.com/us/product/M8754G/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY
>>
>> I have the latter if you want to borrow to test.
>
> Thank you. If I acquire such a beastie, I might take you up on it --
> but I'm just in the talking phase, at the moment.
>
>
>
>
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