[conspire] Soundconfig:

Rick Moen rick at linuxmafia.com
Sun Dec 8 14:11:29 PST 2002

Bill's comment in a separate post makes clear that he meant to send the
message below to the list, rather than to my private mail.  So, I'm
fixing that by lobbing a copy to the list.

Bill, I notice that you use Ximian Evolution.  Like any mailer of the
last couple of decades, it includes the _two_ standard reply functions,
Reply-to-Sender (Ctrl-R) and Reply-to-All (Ctrl-Shift-R).  In any MUA
with those two choices, on mailing lists you should accustom yourself to
_always_ doing Reply-to-All as your default action.

The exception should be when you wish to deliberately go off-list.
Then and only then, use Reply-to-Sender (which is what you called
"reply").  The message below was sent to me alone, because you used 
Reply-to-Sender by mistake.

Happily, Evolution (like mutt) also has a third reply mode, tailored for
even better results specifically on mailing lists, Reply-to-List.
You'll have to consult your documentation on how exactly it works in
Evolution.  (I'm a mutt user.)

----- Forwarded message from Bill Stoye <skiffworks at earthlink.net> -----

Subject: Re: [conspire] Soundconfig:
From: Bill Stoye <skiffworks at earthlink.net>
To: Rick Moen <rick at linuxmafia.com>
X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.5 
Date: 08 Dec 2002 06:44:56 -0800

I have to concede, I'm over my head.

In a moment of wild abandonment, I used Synaptic to get
'kernel-image-2.4-686'; I freaked when I received the Error/warning
message with special instructions to make changes to Lilo; I'm at a loss
as to what to change in /etc/lilo.conf and with what, xterm or text
editor lynx... apparently not lynx it gives me a can't open start file. 

Sorry for the delay in response, I needed a break, trying to prevent
burnout. I was hoping I could get Debian going but maybe I need to go to
a distro like Libranet.

Thank you for your help Rick,

On Tue, 2002-12-03 at 22:30, Rick Moen wrote:
> Hi, Bill!
> Quoting Bill Stoye (skiffworks at earthlink.net):
> > I got and ran 'sndconfig' as you suggested, it finished
> > without any errors but I must still be missing/not understanding
> > something; during shutdown a message scrolls up saying: Starting ALSA
> > sound driver (version none): modprobe: can't locate module snd failed. 
> > 
> > When I retry  sndconfig I get the following:
> > 
> >                  ERROR: No Sound Modules found 
> >                                                                                    	   You don't seem to be running a kernel with modular       
> >            sound enabled. (soundcore.o was not found in the         
> >            module search path).                                     
> >            To use sndconfig, you must be running a kernel with      
> >            modular sound, such as the kernel shipped with Red Hat   
> >            Linux or a 2.2 or greater kernel. 
> > 
> > Looked up the following:
> > skiffworks:/home/bill# uname -r
> > 2.2.20-idepci
> Well, the "idepci" series of precompiled kernels are deliberately very
> pared down, so it's not really surprising that sound drivers are among
> the things left out.  (The idea of the "idepci" ones is that you might
> need a kernel that omits support for some troublesome hardware in order
> to successfully complete installation, otherwise the installer's attempt
> to probe for those hardware components might freeze the installation
> attempt.  The idea is that you'd replace the limited-drivers kernel
> afterwards with either a more-suitable precompiled kernel or a custom
> one that you compile for yourself.)
> The Debian 3.0-based laptop computer in front of me has
> "kernel-image-2.4.18-bf2.4".  The "boot-flavour 2.4" packages are one of
> the many precompiled Debian kernels that include sound drivers.  You can
> find others by looking through the available-packages catalogues (the
> *Packages ones) in your /var/lib/apt/lists/ directory -- or use a GUI 
> tool like aptitude, synaptic, or whatever you prefer.
> You might do better with one of the _very_ standard procompiled kernels, 
> like:
>  kernel-image-2.4-686 (for PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV machines)
>  kernel-image-2.4-686-smp (for PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP machines)
>  kernel-image-2.4-k6 (for AMD K6/K6-II/K6-III machines)
>  kernel-image-2.4-k7 (for AMD K7/Athlon/Duron/Thunderbird machines)
>  kernel-image-2.4-k7-smp (for AMD K7/Athlon/Duron/Thunderbird SMP machines)
> Any of those can be installed via apt-get.  If you do, be very careful
> to follow any special instructions you see at that time, e.g., changes
> to /etc/lilo.conf .  (At the minimum, take care to leave a paragraph
> in /etc/lilo.conf for your old 2.2.20-idepci kernel, so you can reboot
> using it, in the event your 2.4.x one has problems.)
> > I have been trying since July 28th., when I first installed Debian to
> > get sound running; It seems a long way off but I think I would like to
> > bring my PC to the meeting the 2nd weekend of December and elicit your
> > help if I may.
> Of course you're welcome to.  Should be no big problem, I expect.  Or
> you might want to do "apt-get install kernel-image-2.4-686" (or whatever
> version suits your CPU setup best), and try it out on your own.
> > Nor can I remember how you did the sound test on your lap top, I
> > neglected to note it down.
> I logged in as the root user, and then run "sndconfig".  Everything else
> just works with no fuss.
> Sorry to hear about the problems, anyway.
> -- 
> Cheers,               It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
> Rick Moen          It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed,
> rick@            The hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning,
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