From: Federico Sevilla III (email@example.com)
Subject: Re: [plug] Accounting Software
Date: Thu, 28 Nov 2002 22:07:53 +0800
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 08:38:46PM +0800, Joon Guillen
> We're looking around for an open-source (business) accounting
> software, and I was wondering if there are any popular choices among
> the ones who've already used one.
> So far, we're keeping our eye on SQL-Ledger
> (http://www.sql-ledger.org) since it boasts a large number of users
> (one of them is the Cebu GNU/Linux User's Group, Inc.) and uses a
> database we prefer, PostgreSQL. Any comments regarding this product?
My proposal last year for SQL-Ledger got turned down in favor of Quickbooks, but I did set this up locally for evaluation. It is very simple to get up and running, which is cool considering it's a fairly complex piece of work. I recommend you give it a shot and get your accounting people to give it a spin. That's the only way you'll know whether it'll suit your needs or not. I am not an accountant, but from what I remember it supposedly has pretty comprehensive GL and inventory functionality.
You may also want to try NOLA out. I haven't evaluated this (no use now that we have our system set up), but it's worth a shot.
Federico Sevilla III : http://jijo.free.net.ph : When we speak of free
Network Administrator : The Leather Collection, Inc. : software we refer to
GnuPG Key ID : 0x93B746BE : freedom, not price.
[More recently, SQL-Ledger went temporarily proprietary, giving rise to a number of forks of the last open source version. One is LedgerSMB. Some while later still, SQL-Ledger went back to GPLv2 open-source licensing. For a very revealing recounting of that history, please see: http://www.purple.dropbear.id.au/sql-ledger-license-changed-no-longer-gpl-when-gpl-software-goes-bad]
Greg Folkert's comment:
Appgen Business Software, Inc.
Appgen Custom Suite...
Starting @~$995US somewhere ~$4000US for all functionality and 25 users.
Appgen MyBooks Professional
Starting @$249US for 2 concurrent users. $799 for 10 users...
scalable to Custom Suite with 100's of users...
Starting @$99US Single user small business wth limited needs.
Comparison of MyBooks Pro to Quickbooks and QB Value pack
Greg follows up:
Yes... it does work.
Order the $7 CD and look at it. ($$$ Mainly for shipping 2nd Day FedEx.) Well worth the $7.
Three customers have looked at it now, three are switching to it. Every companies accountants like it a lot. Easy to use, easy to check (audit), easy to backup... There are options. It connect vis ODBC if you want therefore it should connect or work on any DB supporting its requirements... (obviously MS-SQL isn't the DB of Choice).
I have looked at it on Windows95, Windows98, Windows2K, WindowsXP, Linux (three distros so far)...
It just worked so far...
From: Kevin Philp (firstname.lastname@example.org)
To: ILUG email@example.com
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 09:57:10 +0000
Subject: [ILUG] Accounting packages
There was some debate earlier this week about accounting packages and the lack of decent ones for Linux. Have a look at www.accpac.com they have just released the new version of their "advantage" and "pro" accounting packages and they both run on Linux. From the blurb it looks like a serious accounting package that runs natively on Linux. Maybe it's only usable in the USA..but its a start. They also include some pretty pictures of it running on a gnome desktop.....if an accounts package can be called pretty!
From: Adam Brown (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Subject: Re: Linux Accounting
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From: Rich Bodo (email@example.com)
Subject: Re: [linux-consultants] billing/invoice software
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 14:02:41 -0800 (PST)
I have sql-ledger installed and I like it a lot in principle. I definitely want my data in a database I can deal with and I definitely want my accounting system open source and I definitely want a Web interface.
Having been involved a couple large open source projects, I understand why docs and support suck for this project, but they still suck. I see comments on the list from the development team that decry basic ease of use features. There is a fork called ck-ledger that seems an improved Web interface, and seems to have a slightly more open minded community, albiet a little less active.
These projects just feel very beta to me. So I'm still looking and I'm still using Quickbooks.
Rich Bodo | firstname.lastname@example.org | 650-964-4678
Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2003 22:29:25 +1000
From: Andrew Greig (AndrewLGreig@netscape.net)
Subject: Linux Accounting
Just had this link passed to me by someone who knew of my frustration at being locked into MYOB. I have also looked at quasar, the Canadian accounting package (www.quasar.org), but a quick look over this one indicates it is worthy of a look. 444,000 downloads from Sourceforge in a year! Includes time tracking, which seems to be a current thread as well.
Thanks to Chandra Amarasingham for this one.
Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2003 14:56:45 +1000
From: Brian May (email@example.com)
Subject: Quasar (Linux Accounting)
To: Andrew Greig (AndrewLGreig@netscape.net)
On Mon, Mar 31, 2003 at 10:29:25PM +1000, Andrew Greig
> Just had this link passed to me by someone who knew of my frustration
> at being locked into MYOB. I have also looked at the Canadian
> accounting package Quasar (www.quasar.org), but a quick look over this
> one indicates it is worthy of a look. 444,000 downloads from
> Sourceforge in a year! Includes time tracking, which seems to be a
> current thread as well.
Its a pity Compiere seems to require Oracle and can't use mysql or postgresql...
I can't help but think that 6 gigs to install a database that
required for an accounting package is extremely excessive
Brian May (firstname.lastname@example.org)
[Database independence is being worked on for Compiere, a/o 2003-04. It should be noted that this package is primarily focussed on asset tracking, ERP, and CRM, although it includes full accounting functionality.]
Compiere: Optimize your Inventory, Enter Sales Orders, Receive Orders from the Web, Create Invoices and record Shipments, Collect Receipts (cash, credit cards) & match with Bank Statements, Generate or enter Purchase Orders, Record Supplier Receipts and Invoices, Pay your Suppliers, Enter manual Journals, Print reports and statements.
Kapital from The Kompany (http://www.thekompany.com) is a proprietary personal-finance program for Linux with full QuickBooks compatibility.
Check register, Calendar, Check and report printing, Basic and advanced searching, Predefined categories, New account wizard, Import/Export features for Quicken QIF file format, Budget Tracker, Check Designer, Online Banking.
Quasar, http://www.linuxcanada.com/ fast/easy data entry, quick error correction, financial statements, vendor billing, vendor claims, customer quotes, customer invoices, accounts receivable, accounts payable, cheque writing printing, mailing labels, bank reconciliation, multiple taxes, selling discounts, purchasing charges, Backup and Restore, fast and easy reporting, multiple companies, departments and sub-departments, purchasing and receiving, advanced price management, superior cost management, true landed cost, full margin control, container deposits, create kits, physical counts, multiple case sizes, multiple lookup numbers, multiple vendors per item, sales history, item adjustments, active and stocked status, powerful reporting.
MyBooks, http://www.appgen.com/, Powerful features address the needs of both service and inventory-based businesses and provide everything you need to track and control your sales, customers, vendors, purchases, bank accounts, employees, and inventory items.
Gnucash, http://www.gnucash.org/, easy to use, account grouping, split transactions, reconciliation window, stock tracking, Quicken compatible, internationalization, reporting/graphing, powerful search, double entry, general ledger, stock quotes, check printing, postgres SQL integration.
Moneydance, http://www.moneydance.com/, Online banking, Dynamically loadable extensions (aka plug-ins), Budget management and tracking, Stock portfolio and investment management, Transaction auto-completion, Transaction search, Check Printing (regular checks, or checks with stubs), Multiple currencies (you can even define your own!), Support for multiple accounts and true double-entry, An easy to use checkbook register-style interface with many shortcuts, Custom 3D and 2D graphing with ability to print or export to GIF files, Report generator with export to HTML and printing capabilities, QIF (Quicken Interchange Format) file import and export, Cleared vs. actual account balances updated as you work, Multiple languages (Italian, German, French, Brazilian/Portuguese, UK and US English) and number/date formats, Scheduled transactions and reminders, Reconciliation tool to simplify checkbook balancing, Automatic notification when upgrades are available, Extensive transaction sorting options, Support for multiple dates per transaction, Support for split transactions, Currency fields support math expressions, and automatic currency translation.
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:44:23 +1000
From: Richard Keech (email@example.com)
Subject: Re: Accounting
To: Linux Users of Victoria (firstname.lastname@example.org)
a number of large Australian firms use Pronto on Linux for their financials. see http://www.pronto.com.au/
Pronto is, I believe, based in Melbourne.
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 09:48:50 +1000
From: Robert Browne (email@example.com)
To: LUV mail list (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Had a look for commercial accounting, found these:
Muli Management Pty Ltd
Century Software financials - could not view Web site in
Think they do foxonlinux
The free ones, but do not handle GST:
Linux Canada quasar accounting
Or run Windows software in VMware
Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2017 07:22:47 -0700
To: General SacLUG discussing &t;email@example.com%gt;
Subject: Re: [Lug-nuts] Can a big business really run completely on Linux FOSS?
At UCD, they use a product called Kuali for accounting. For a short while, I worked as a developer on it. It's big and does double-entry accounting and fund tracking. Fund tracking is a feature that most businesses don't use, but universities and other entities that have to report to donors about how their money was spent need it.
It's not exactly FOSS. You can get the code. It's written in Java. But, you can't contribute to the development unless you are a partner. Being a partner is expensive and targets large universities. As far as I can tell, though, you can do what you want to the code for your own use. So, it's free as in beer. I downloaded it and was playing with it at home shortly after I left the university, but went on to more fun things. I guess now you have to become a member (as opposed to a partner), which I think is free, but didn't want to explore.
If you want to see how large enterprises use FOSS, you should take a look at the Kuali Project, kuali.org. It's big money and "mission critical" stuff. FOSS gives these organizations the control and flexibility that they never had when buying a "product" from a vendor.
ADempiere Business Suite is an industrial strength open-source software solution that combines ERP, CRM, and SCM support for business process. ADempiere provides a framework for extending and customizing to meet business needs.